18th Century aesthetics vs contemporary materials and aestestics.

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I am restoring a circa 1755 Connecticut saltbox in Denver Co. I have the hand split lath installed. I need to explain to the plasterer, who has 40 years experience, how to apply plaster to give a 250+ year appearance. I am not fussy about components used in the plaster, if the end product is aesthetically 18th century with age. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
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hope this doesnt offend mate, but your question 'I need to tell a bloke with 40 years experience how to do his job' probably isnt going to elicit much of a response...

maybe if you had some pictures of the type of finish you had in mind, and then showed these pictures to this bloke, he'll just do what you ask...

a picture says a thousand words so to speak...
 
Dont quite understand what you want to know , do you want to know how to explain to the tradesman what you want ?
 
Hmmm I would talk to him face to face... if he has been doing it 30 years I reckon they might have an idea what to do :-)

but still none the less a few photos on here would be both helpful and of course interesting.

Welcome to the forum and good luck

Danny
 
Think he's on about a rough/bumpy looking finish on laths,
I could do that finish it's my speciality :rolleyes)
 
well i did think of getting him to ask d*m**o, or get the plasterer p'ssed...
thing is though, how ambiguous is that question? what exactly is 'authentic 250 year old plaster'?

blown, hanging off the laths? olde english? distempered paint? wtf? it all depends on exactly what he's got in his minds eye...

might even be better off with wattle and daub...

or binning the trowel and attempting a wattle and daub finish with a lollipop stick...

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henry, when were you born mate? 17 something or other werent it?
 
Correct me if I am wrong but what you are talking about is the sharp flat finish of gypsum compared to the soft finish of lime.
Answer; use the same materials as they did 250 years ago !
Oh! by the way your plasterer will need to know who to use those materials
 
Frank said:
HELP

I am restoring a circa 1755 Connecticut saltbox in Denver Co. I have the hand split lath installed. I need to explain to the plasterer, who has 40 years experience, how to apply plaster to give a 250+ year appearance. I am not fussy about components used in the plaster, if the end product is aesthetically 18th century with age. Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.
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your best bet is to contact Ryan Chivers in boulder Colorado.... artesano plastering


I am not fussy about components used in the plaster, if the end product is aesthetically 18th century with age

Why not? ...you want authentic looking ...use the authentic material...Ryan can fill you in here....and yes it is easily available near to you.
 
Capital spread said:
Correct me if I am wrong but what you are talking about is the sharp flat finish of gypsum compared to the soft finish of lime.
Answer; use the same materials as they did 250 years ago !
Oh! by the way your plasterer will need to know who to use those materials
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exactly use the correct material ...in this case hydraulic lime by trans mineral.

I know the question seems stupid ...but it is a common thing to come across the lack of knowledge here in N America......very very few understand what it takes to create a look as the OP is asking for.

In europe ...you blokes see this exact look everyday ...and take it for granted ......
the plasterer is too young ( in most cases ) to have any experience with lath and plaster at all .....40 years ago drywall/drylining started to take over here in N America.....this plasterer more then likely is a stucco plasterer having only worked or at least predominately worked on the exterior of buildings ....and will have limited or no experience with this type of work

like a few have said ...OP give the plasterer a bottle of scotch...and close the door and let him have at it.... :P

If I was asked to do ...or look at this job ...I would completely jump at the chance as they are very few and far between ....
 
authenticlime said:
exactly use the correct material ...in this case hydraulic lime by trans mineral.

I know the question seems stupid ...but it is a common thing to come across the lack of knowledge here in N America......very very few understand what it takes to create a look as the OP is asking for.

In europe ...you blokes see this exact look everyday ...and take it for granted ......
the plasterer is too young ( in most cases ) to have any experience with lath and plaster at all .....40 years ago drywall/drylining started to take over here in N America.....this plasterer more then likely is a stucco plasterer having only worked or at least predominately worked on the exterior of buildings ....and will have limited or no experience with this type of work

like a few have said ...OP give the plasterer a bottle of scotch...and close the door and let him have at it.... :P

If I was asked to do ...or look at this job ...I would completely jump at the chance as they are very few and far between ....
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If he paid my airfare & digs so would I
 
So would i, its the fcuking work permits are the agg, UK and USA good friends dont think so when they do the green card lottery we aint even allowed to apply.
 
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