action against BG.

[mrmacgypsum]

Fellow spreads.
Over the last few months it has become obvious that the quality of multi finish has gone down the pan.
As a collective could we not establish some sort of online petition to push BG into going back to an earlier formula or put it back in bags without plastic inner liners. (which roughly seams to coincide with when the problems started).
I have no computer savvy as to how we could go about it but I would be interested in any ideas from people who are.

 

[Rhys]

Multi is up and down, we've had poorish stuff that you struggle with a bucketful but also multi that you can comfortably put 2 to 3 buckets on. Some goes in straight away and other seams to have an endless supply of fat. All of which have plastic liners. Board went crap we switched to multi, switched back when multi was crap. Board got better but went crap again and we've been on multi since. Why its only the Irish that get Carlite and other types of skim I don't know. BG don't seam to want to know when I asked.

 

[Danny]

I can probably get someone on here to discuss it....

The thing that always concerns me is that finish leaves the factory the same... I think its how its stored and looked after once it gets to wickes or B&Q.... Those of you who came on the mine visit will know what i mean...

Danny

 

[Rhys]

Might be something in that Danny but don't you think the bags are better sealed now?

 

[Nisus]

Oh yes I remember the mine visit Danny, infact it was a year ago next week. :RpS_thumbup:

 

[Danny]

Might be something in that Danny but don't you think the bags are better sealed now?

from what I have used recently yes they seem better sealed... I dont use much these days though.....

Yes nisus it was a year ago

 

[Curry]

Or instead of petitions hit them were it hurts, their pockets. Let's all buy Knauf instead!

 

[spudd]

Or instead of petitions hit them were it hurts, their pockets. Let's all buy Knauf instead!

Dont you mean knaff!

 

[Rhys]

Or instead of petitions hit them were it hurts, their pockets. Let's all buy Knauf instead!

Aren't they discontinuing their multi and just producing machine stuff?

 

[Jim85]

I'd also like multi to come in an array of different colours and smells

 

[DuffMcKaganIsClass]

Oh yes I remember the mine visit Danny, infact it was a year ago next week. :RpS_thumbup:

Is this like the 'fishing trip' from gavin and stacey

 

[CeeVee]

Its MP finish now. Can be hand applied, but its three hours plus a set...

 

[Curry]

It's much nicer then multi. Just about to mix now, ill see how long a hit takes by hand.

 

[Capital spread]

Being a bit of a fossil I have never used machine applied plasters. From what I understand you can put on far more metres with a machine than by hand. So for example, if you can put on twice the area with a machine then before long it will be in all your specs, machine applied only, especially if BG start pushing it to the architects. Then of course the rates will be dropped down accordly, or am I wrong!

 

[gooner59]

I'am the same as you Capital, have you seen the price of the machines !!!, then from reading all the stuff on here it take's about two years to understand what is going wrong with them, then looking and speaking to peeps that have had parex and the other renders they are not that great in finish and in colour !! ,the bagged product is expensive as well so i don't know where it is all going , except suppliers of machines & the bagged
materials are getting rich off the plasterers ( middlemen ) as usual ,

 

[essexandy]

I can probably get someone on here to discuss it....

The thing that always concerns me is that finish leaves the factory the same... I think its how its stored and looked after once it gets to wickes or B&Q.... Those of you who came on the mine visit will know what i mean...

Danny

I agree with that Danny, I think the storage at the merchants and more importantly on the site make a lot of difference. Also water temp plus temp and moisture content of the substrate.
All that said it would help if BG did come and explain things to the masses rather than just sitting in the shadows listening to all moans, I mean I'm sure someone from BG keeps an eye on what's being said on here in case they want something removed:RpS_wink:

 

[beddy]

itd have to be done properly though. theyre not going to listen if spunky threatens to piss on their kids christmas prezzies :RpS_thumbsup:

 

[DannyMac]

There's more inconsistancy now than a few years ago for sure. You can't put that down to storage or site conditions.

 

[essexandy]

There's more inconsistancy now than a few years ago for sure. You can't put that down to storage or site conditions.

I don't agree, years ago I believe that finish was made at four different plants across the country and there was plenty of variation then.
I've had the finish work differently as I go through a pallet and yet I've seen the huge batches it's made in, so I can't see how it could vary throughout a pallet due to the material.

 

[KevRM]

believe it or not the amount of money you all spend per yr on BG materials is not going to have any impact if you stop buying, unless you have workforce of about 300 spreads etc each, so no amount of complaining on here will make a difference :RpS_unsure:

 

[user__removed]

i hate the multi bags at the moment, every pallet i get the bags are all stuck together, open them to mix and half the bags paper is in the mix. Also had to send a pallet back recently as the gear just flash set, went brown in an hour!!

 

[kebab king]

i could be wrong hear, wo`nt be the 1st time.i have not had a issue with Multi or board for a few years now,butt i am anal about how clean my buckets and tools are, wonder if it makes any difference.

 

[Rhys]

I once mixed some multi in a brand new black bucket with my gauging trowel, only needed enough for a small panel on the side of some stairs. It set like buggery. We complained to BG about it at the time and they sent a rep out who took the bag away for testing. Never got a reply (though I did scab a couple of BG high viz waistcoats of him).
He was giving loads of bollox about powder sticking in the chute at the plant so sometimes you get concentrated amounts of setting stuff (my technical words) in a mix.

 

[spunky]

There's more inconsistancy now than a few years ago for sure. You can't put that down to storage or site conditions.

I haven't noticed that much difference it deals a bit creamier which is nice the rest you can put down to site conditions

 

[Rhys]

I haven't noticed that much difference it deals a bit creamier which is nice the rest you can put down to site conditions

Just lately it has been nice.

As an asside, our merchents got a pallet of uni in the other week and no one has touched it :rolleyes)