Hi,
I am building a large detached house in the South West. I have been working on it for 18 months and the end is all most in site. I have done most of the work myself, apart from the timber frame, the block work, electrics and plastering.
I got made redundant so I am pretty much working on it full time now but I have to live and pay a labourer so the lump of money I have left to finish the project is nearly all gone.
It is timber framed with a 7n block work skin. I didn't even know through colour render existed until well into the build. The architect said it would be cheaper to use standard concrete blocks and render it, rather than coloured fair faced concrete blocks which was what it was originally to be built in. i now know he obviously meant sand and cement render and paint.
I really would like to use a through colour render but I got the shock of my life when I got a quote from SAS Europe for Pro-rend. It is £9.50 a bag! The area to cover is 170 square metres and my plasterer / renderer said 15mm thickness. I was quoted just under £2500 inc VAT for materials and really need to get that down to £1500.
I am looking at other products like K-rend but there is not really a huge difference in price.
I need to know if I can use a sand and cement scratch or base coat at say 10mm then apply a top coat of a good polymer render at 7mm to scratch it back to an overall thickness of 15mm. I can't go any thicker because of the aluminium window sills which will only have the minimum protrusion of 30mm from the finished wall with 15mm.
I asked my plasterer if he could do this but he said he would still need to put a scratch coat of the through colour render on before the top coat so it would end up having to have 3 coats instead of 2 and cost me more in labour.
Most of my mates are in the building trade as I was in the early 80s but none of them know with absolute certainty whether it is possible or not as through colour render is more of a specialist thing.
I think 10mm of sand and cement with mesh embedded, then a special primer/bonding agent sprayed on, then the 7mm top coat of K-rend roughed back to 5mm. I could apply the primer my self and stick to the original labour only quote of £12.50 a metre for 2 coats?
Can anybody give me any advice please. I don't want to compromise the integrity or the weather proofing but there must be a more economical way of doing it, even if it is more labour intensive for myself. My time isn't really costing me anything at the moment, except for my sanity...
It is a very modern shaped house with 2 barrel shaped roofs and I am one of those very dejected guys you have probably seen on Grand designs who is at the end of his tether and out of money. No I am not on the program. Didn't apply or want to be
All comments will really be well appreciated.
Cheers
ritchyp
I am building a large detached house in the South West. I have been working on it for 18 months and the end is all most in site. I have done most of the work myself, apart from the timber frame, the block work, electrics and plastering.
I got made redundant so I am pretty much working on it full time now but I have to live and pay a labourer so the lump of money I have left to finish the project is nearly all gone.
It is timber framed with a 7n block work skin. I didn't even know through colour render existed until well into the build. The architect said it would be cheaper to use standard concrete blocks and render it, rather than coloured fair faced concrete blocks which was what it was originally to be built in. i now know he obviously meant sand and cement render and paint.
I really would like to use a through colour render but I got the shock of my life when I got a quote from SAS Europe for Pro-rend. It is £9.50 a bag! The area to cover is 170 square metres and my plasterer / renderer said 15mm thickness. I was quoted just under £2500 inc VAT for materials and really need to get that down to £1500.
I am looking at other products like K-rend but there is not really a huge difference in price.
I need to know if I can use a sand and cement scratch or base coat at say 10mm then apply a top coat of a good polymer render at 7mm to scratch it back to an overall thickness of 15mm. I can't go any thicker because of the aluminium window sills which will only have the minimum protrusion of 30mm from the finished wall with 15mm.
I asked my plasterer if he could do this but he said he would still need to put a scratch coat of the through colour render on before the top coat so it would end up having to have 3 coats instead of 2 and cost me more in labour.
Most of my mates are in the building trade as I was in the early 80s but none of them know with absolute certainty whether it is possible or not as through colour render is more of a specialist thing.
I think 10mm of sand and cement with mesh embedded, then a special primer/bonding agent sprayed on, then the 7mm top coat of K-rend roughed back to 5mm. I could apply the primer my self and stick to the original labour only quote of £12.50 a metre for 2 coats?
Can anybody give me any advice please. I don't want to compromise the integrity or the weather proofing but there must be a more economical way of doing it, even if it is more labour intensive for myself. My time isn't really costing me anything at the moment, except for my sanity...
It is a very modern shaped house with 2 barrel shaped roofs and I am one of those very dejected guys you have probably seen on Grand designs who is at the end of his tether and out of money. No I am not on the program. Didn't apply or want to be
All comments will really be well appreciated.
Cheers
ritchyp
