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hi lads need some advice on a job i looked at tonight what it is ,is a log burner inset in a rendered chimney brest and its cracked from the heat,he wants it all re done .whats the best way ???
 
Smash the log burner up and re plaster and tell the customer to make do with central heating
 
barryed said:
Smash the log burner up and re plaster and tell the customer to make do with central heating
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what sort of ancers that lol :-\
 
Just do a search on google or whatever for fire proof cement there are a number of proprietory products available.... you can also search the forum this has been covered previously.....
 
I have to do one soon and have been recomended sand and cement with a high lime content apparently there aint much difference between that and fire cement.
 
What part of the breast has cracked mate behind the burner or the front of the breast either way it should not happen with a wood burner ide check the installation first, correct flue liner etc.
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flat boy skim said:
hi lads need some advice on a job i looked at tonight what it is ,is a log burner inset in a rendered chimney brest and its cracked from the heat,he wants it all re done .whats the best way ???
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done a few of these and they cracked i looked it up u have to use a sand and cement thats fire resistant i used this gear that came in bags cant remember where it came from which was designed for it if i remember what it was called i will let u no
 
heard the term 'refractory cement' bandied about on here before...
from people more learned than me, obviously... :-[
 
Iv'e built a few ingle nook fireplaces over the years that were rendered at the back with a standard 6:1:1 sand/cement/lime. They were all being fitted with wood burners. Never had any come back.
You could check out THE SOLID FUEL ASSOCIATION for advice
 
vitcas fire cement / plaster they do a backing cement based render and a finish plaster that gets rubbed up...finish aint brilliant with it aint cheap £50 for a bucket that goes around 1 .5 meters at 50 to 10 mm for backing and a little more for finish at about 3 to 5mm but goes up to 1500oc or so which is needed for a wood burner / mixed fuel burner. ....its a bit of a pig to work with as the backing render has big volcanic grit in it, and the finish plaster gets mixed as you would use it rather than a gypsum product where it will firm up as its setting..not nice stuff but what u need .
 
I've been to price up a job recently and he'd had a new log burner installed, the installer also did his breast, dot n dab & skim, breast and inset!! :o I told the guy he needs to speak to the installer..... The skimming was shocking too!!
 
I've done a wood burner before and just lined the fireplace with Glasroc F, it's a 'ready skimmed' glass fibre & gypsum board so just bung the boards on with some adhesive and away you go. Expensive boards though!!
 
Do you use drywall with them? I've used them to 'fire proof' under floors and round joists before, told to not make mistake cos of the cost.
 
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vitcas fire cement / plaster they do a backing cement based render and a finish plaster that gets rubbed up...finish aint brilliant with it aint cheap £50 for a bucket that goes around 1 .5 meters at 50 to 10 mm for backing and a little more for finish at about 3 to 5mm but goes up to 1500oc or so which is needed for a wood burner / mixed fuel burner. ....its a bit of a pig to work with as the backing render has big volcanic grit in it, and the finish plaster gets mixed as you would use it rather than a gypsum product where it will firm up as its setting..not nice stuff but what u need .
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Phippsy333 - Please let me know what the work time is with this vitcas finish plaster - it seems from what I am reading that its nothing like gypsum multifinish etc...?
What has your experience been with it?
Many thanks
Wred
 
wred this thread is two years old , re submit the question in general plastering section and you will get a response , welcome to the forum by the way
 
From what I've been told of the fire bloke a know , fireline boards r no gd , they have a higher time for fires but arnt designed for constant heat ,more just so ya can get ya arse out in a fire !
 
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