back coat plaster

[kirk johnstone]

i have always used bonding and browning, there is newer stuff out now tough coat and hard wall. i have never used them and i want to know what's the difference between them and the pros and cons?

thanks lads

 

[bodplasterer]

Browning jesus do they still make it ;D Well hardwall goes off alot harder than browning, and is all round better than browning, toughcoat is better on higher suction back grounds such as thermalites, but it is more expensive, hardwall is fine on these backgrounds as long as you soak the walls a bit and i only use bonding over boards, concrete or a tight coat to straighten a wall as you cant use hardwall or toughcoat in the same way so personally i use hardwall and bonding in two different aspects.

 

[Nisus]

Hardwall is used more than browning these days kirk,
it's not as soft as browning hence the name hardwall.
I still use browning now & again but it's not stocked everywhere nowadays.

 

[kirk johnstone]

Hardwall is used more than browning these days kirk,
it's not as soft as browning hence the name hardwall.
I still use browning now & again but it's not stocked everywhere nowadays.

is hardwall as light as browning?

 

[Nisus]

Oops didn't see your post bod, 16seconds before mine ;D
yeah they still do browning, but i do like hardwall.
As long as it gets the wall ready for skimming though I don't really care what I use
s+c, hardwall, browning, bonding etc...

 

[Nisus]

Hardwall is used more than browning these days kirk,
it's not as soft as browning hence the name hardwall.
I still use browning now & again but it's not stocked everywhere nowadays.

is hardwall as light as browning?

yes mate.
when set though hardwall is more hard wearing than browning is.

 

[kirk johnstone]

Hardwall is used more than browning these days kirk,
it's not as soft as browning hence the name hardwall.
I still use browning now & again but it's not stocked everywhere nowadays.

is hardwall as light as browning?

yes mate.
when set though hardwall is more hard wearing than browning is.

oh an i forgot to ask can you skim straight over it as soon as in goes hard, and dose it stiffen to a set or dose it flash set like bonding?

 

[bodplasterer]

It has a gradual set it don't take as long to go off as bonding and it all depends on the background and time of year as well.

 

[kirk johnstone]

can you skim it as soon as it starts to go firm?

sorry for all the questions bod ;D

 

[Nisus]

Skim once changed colour mate.

 

[SLIPPY]

Skim it after it goes hard mate or within 12 hours or it will sound like your rice crispies in the morning after you add the milk

 

[kirk johnstone]

thanks lads, cant think of any more questions

 

[nelly]

Hardwall is quite a nice plaster to use really, its like a stickier version of browning.

 

[S a plastering]

just buy a bag ya tight git lol ;D

 

[Johnathon]

Think bonding is perfect for filling in chases; gaps and the like and also work for a builder who cant fit plasterboard very well so end up using bonding alot on the gaps and loose edges, works really well

 

[kirk johnstone]

Think bonding is perfect for filling in chases; gaps and the like and also work for a builder who cant fit plasterboard very well so end up using bonding alot on the gaps and loose edges, works really well

Don't forget to skrim the edge's mate.

 

[Johnathon]

Yes do mate scrim everything even scrim my beading after someone mentioned on here

 

[pwi]

Bring back renovating plaster twas great stuff

 

[Gibbo]

smelt like rotten eggs though

 

[pftmonojetman]

My arse smelled like rotten eggs New years day but thats a different story : :, Bloody Heineken

 

[Gibbo]

too much info jetman