beads around pillars

[spread7769]

hi just a quick question , im plain face rendering some external pillars, and the customer has said he would like bell cast beads round the bottom ive told him i dont think thats possible and suggested 3mm skim bead on top of scratch then another 3mm bead on top of that any other ideas lads.

 

[kirk johnstone]

try a plastic bellcast bead mate, or alternatively just do it the old fashioned way and fix wood around the bottom and take it off once done

 

[spread7769]

ive got a plastic bell cast in the van from a previous job but the radious of the pillar is just to tight and it kinks how would you use the timber aint done that before.

 

[lucius]

Just screw some batten around the base of the pier where you want it to bell it and work to that, make sure you wet the batten down or use a relesing agent so you dont damage the render when you remove the batten.
Lucius.

 

[kirk johnstone]

erm... right what i would do is get some plywood and measure out the radious of the pillar then coppy it onto the centre of the ply then cut it out so you have got a hole in the wood, then decide how much you want your bellcast to protrude from the pillar. lets say 2 inches, so now marc another circle around the whole 2 inches bigger and cut it out. you should now have a ring of wood, you need to cut this in half to fit it around the pillar.

drill plug and screw some little bits of wood to the bottom of the pillar for your ring of wood to sit on (make sure it is all level and all the bellcasts on each pillar the same hight.

to fix the ring of wood to the little blocks of wood you will have to do it from underneath with little screws, NOT FROM THE TOP as you wont be able to get to them once rendered. (if they dont seem solid you could strengthen it from underneath with a bit of driwall adhesive.

now just render to them as you usually would and when finished take all the wood away the next day.

you can co further an add a drip member to the bottom of the belcast but i dont think it would be wirth it as it is only for a pillar.

hope this all makes sense and helps

 

[spread7769]

cheers for the extra ideas lads i think i can put the prozac back in the cupboard now ;D ;D ;D

 

[flat boy skim]

erm... right what i would do is get some plywood and measure out the radious of the pillar then coppy it onto the centre of the ply then cut it out so you have got a hole in the wood, then decide how much you want your bellcast to protrude from the pillar. lets say 2 inches, so now marc another circle around the whole 2 inches bigger and cut it out. you should now have a ring of wood, you need to cut this in half to fit it around the pillar.

drill plug and screw some little bits of wood to the bottom of the pillar for your ring of wood to sit on (make sure it is all level and all the bellcasts on each pillar the same hight.

to fix the ring of wood to the little blocks of wood you will have to do it from underneath with little screws, NOT FROM THE TOP as you wont be able to get to them once rendered. (if they dont seem solid you could strengthen it from underneath with a bit of driwall adhesive.

now just render to them as you usually would and when finished take all the wood away the next day.

you can co further an add a drip member to the bottom of the belcast but i dont think it would be wirth it as it is only for a pillar.

hope this all makes sense and helps

if its a propper bellcast it should work as a drip without scoring one in after

 

[kirk johnstone]

erm... right what i would do is get some plywood and measure out the radious of the pillar then coppy it onto the centre of the ply then cut it out so you have got a hole in the wood, then decide how much you want your bellcast to protrude from the pillar. lets say 2 inches, so now marc another circle around the whole 2 inches bigger and cut it out. you should now have a ring of wood, you need to cut this in half to fit it around the pillar.

drill plug and screw some little bits of wood to the bottom of the pillar for your ring of wood to sit on (make sure it is all level and all the bellcasts on each pillar the same hight.

to fix the ring of wood to the little blocks of wood you will have to do it from underneath with little screws, NOT FROM THE TOP as you wont be able to get to them once rendered. (if they dont seem solid you could strengthen it from underneath with a bit of driwall adhesive.

now just render to them as you usually would and when finished take all the wood away the next day.

you can co further an add a drip member to the bottom of the belcast but i dont think it would be wirth it as it is only for a pillar.

hope this all makes sense and helps

if its a propper bellcast it should work as a drip without scoring one in after

i would not recommend scoring one in as it is mucch easyer to put a thin bead if wood ontop of the ply so that it forms it into the render, or put a chamfer on the ply but this would be to hard to explain the setting out in a post and much more easy to demonstrate

 

[Gibbo]

you could run a collar out of casting plaster with the drip in when rendered just take away and the drip is formed in the render already

 

[kirk johnstone]

thats what i meant only with wood

 

[nelly]

Use a stop bead.

I've never seen the point of a drip bead, how exactly do they work when theres a 20 mph driving wind?