Ceiling crack tale

lurpak

Artex Boy
Was just reading the other thread about an over-boarded ceiling cracking and it reminded me of a job a few months back.

Job was to make these 2 rooms into 1, it was a biggish room about 10 meter long. Remove coving and ceiling roses. Bring smaller room ceiling to the same level as big room and skim so it's all the same level blahblah, and skim all walls.

Everything goes to plan, job done, happy customer, paid. Onto the next one.

Couple of weeks later I get a message about a crack appearing. I said I'll pop over and have a look.

I walk in, you all know the first place I'm going to look don't you. Where I joined the 2 rooms. But theres nothing there, dried out not a mark on it no crack.. then he shows me further up the room, a crack from one side to the other.

I was bewildered, wasn't there when I skimmed or I'd have taped it up first. I asked if he had had any work done since I left? he says no.

My heads spinning at this point. So I look through my pictures on my phone and realise the patio doors are completely different. And guess where the crack is? right where the doors are. So I said, you've had new doors in (brick wall) he said oh yeah... didn't think that would do it. lol.

I explained that ripping out a door and all that disturbance and the new doors being pushed up tight to the ceiling is the likely culprit. I did fix the crack for him but charged accordingly.

Moral of the story.. be mindful. Some customers are sneaky.

Ceiling crack tale
Ceiling crack tale
Ceiling crack tale
Ceiling crack tale
 
We take loads of pictures of dodgy shite we're being asked to cover up, poor carpentry and brickwork etc. Trust no one.

Some are thick as mince, some are trying it on.

I had a call back a few months after doing an extension to a bungalow. The bathroom lighting and extractor circuit kept tripping and wouldn't reset. I checked all the usual (RCD times etc) and nothing seemed amis with the new CU. I asked the "have you had/done any work since?" question and it was quite a stroppy "No, and we're not happy that it's failed this quickly" etc.

Following a bit more checking I was walking through the hall and noticed three small photo frames hanging one above the other. Directly above the light switch.

Stupid c**t had shove a nail straight through the strapper. He had the good grace to be embarrassed, but I still slapped them with a call out on top of fixing it for them.
 
Was just reading the other thread about an over-boarded ceiling cracking and it reminded me of a job a few months back.

Job was to make these 2 rooms into 1, it was a biggish room about 10 meter long. Remove coving and ceiling roses. Bring smaller room ceiling to the same level as big room and skim so it's all the same level blahblah, and skim all walls.

Everything goes to plan, job done, happy customer, paid. Onto the next one.

Couple of weeks later I get a message about a crack appearing. I said I'll pop over and have a look.

I walk in, you all know the first place I'm going to look don't you. Where I joined the 2 rooms. But theres nothing there, dried out not a mark on it no crack.. then he shows me further up the room, a crack from one side to the other.

I was bewildered, wasn't there when I skimmed or I'd have taped it up first. I asked if he had had any work done since I left? he says no.

My heads spinning at this point. So I look through my pictures on my phone and realise the patio doors are completely different. And guess where the crack is? right where the doors are. So I said, you've had new doors in (brick wall) he said oh yeah... didn't think that would do it. lol.

I explained that ripping out a door and all that disturbance and the new doors being pushed up tight to the ceiling is the likely culprit. I did fix the crack for him but charged accordingly.

Moral of the story.. be mindful. Some customers are sneaky.

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Slippery bastards!
 
Same, always take before and afters etc. Id have not noticed those doors otherwise

It's only when you get one like that you appreciate the true value of protecting yourself. Things like photos, contracts, T&Cs are all a pain in the 4rse to do, but they can save you a lot of money and heart ache.
 
Had that before,got a call back for cracks in the ceilings I'd skimmed. Got to the job and noticed loft flooring sitting in the hall it was a large bungalow and every ceiling had a hairline crack. Turned out her son had floored the loft and had nailed it down. Never fixed it though as her sons attitude stunk.
 
Was just reading the other thread about an over-boarded ceiling cracking and it reminded me of a job a few months back.

Job was to make these 2 rooms into 1, it was a biggish room about 10 meter long. Remove coving and ceiling roses. Bring smaller room ceiling to the same level as big room and skim so it's all the same level blahblah, and skim all walls.

Everything goes to plan, job done, happy customer, paid. Onto the next one.

Couple of weeks later I get a message about a crack appearing. I said I'll pop over and have a look.

I walk in, you all know the first place I'm going to look don't you. Where I joined the 2 rooms. But theres nothing there, dried out not a mark on it no crack.. then he shows me further up the room, a crack from one side to the other.

I was bewildered, wasn't there when I skimmed or I'd have taped it up first. I asked if he had had any work done since I left? he says no.

My heads spinning at this point. So I look through my pictures on my phone and realise the patio doors are completely different. And guess where the crack is? right where the doors are. So I said, you've had new doors in (brick wall) he said oh yeah... didn't think that would do it. lol.

I explained that ripping out a door and all that disturbance and the new doors being pushed up tight to the ceiling is the likely culprit. I did fix the crack for him but charged accordingly.

Moral of the story.. be mindful. Some customers are sneaky.

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More to point what yer doing with @Vincey steps and sheets!
 
Did you clock the hard floor protection to the right?

Oh yeah. That’s right. Roll n stroll bitch

I use these sheets pretty much exclusively now. Around £2 (I pay £2 odd inc VAT from Smiths) for an 8' x 4' which can be taped down or together to make a waterproof over-floor. They protect against impacts, you can kick/slide ladders or hop ups around on them, use them on walls, doors, furniture etc. They work well over hard floors, carpets, tiles, we even use them on bare boards to save time.

When you're done you can either sweep them off and re-use them, or just fold them up with all the crap still on them and straight in the skip.

Best of all, they're @Nisus approved. Mainly because he can clear and clean a room floor in a few minutes. (y)
 
We skimmed a huge lounge ceiling in a bungalow and about 3 months later we got a call to see that a ceiling had cracked... no bother I headed over and took a look...

I was shocked... cracked all over the place... I was like oh god thats terrible....

He then went on to show me the loft conversion he had just had done.....lol
 
As I’ve said before in my house I ripped every ceiling down and insulated/double sheeted them and cracks have appeared at every place they were previously before I ripped the ceilings down.
 
Was just reading the other thread about an over-boarded ceiling cracking and it reminded me of a job a few months back.

Job was to make these 2 rooms into 1, it was a biggish room about 10 meter long. Remove coving and ceiling roses. Bring smaller room ceiling to the same level as big room and skim so it's all the same level blahblah, and skim all walls.

Everything goes to plan, job done, happy customer, paid. Onto the next one.

Couple of weeks later I get a message about a crack appearing. I said I'll pop over and have a look.

I walk in, you all know the first place I'm going to look don't you. Where I joined the 2 rooms. But theres nothing there, dried out not a mark on it no crack.. then he shows me further up the room, a crack from one side to the other.

I was bewildered, wasn't there when I skimmed or I'd have taped it up first. I asked if he had had any work done since I left? he says no.

My heads spinning at this point. So I look through my pictures on my phone and realise the patio doors are completely different. And guess where the crack is? right where the doors are. So I said, you've had new doors in (brick wall) he said oh yeah... didn't think that would do it. lol.

I explained that ripping out a door and all that disturbance and the new doors being pushed up tight to the ceiling is the likely culprit. I did fix the crack for him but charged accordingly.

Moral of the story.. be mindful. Some customers are sneaky.

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Just waiting for the comments “you’ve not boarded it right “ “ you didn’t use paper tapes” “ you don’t know what your doing “ and best one “ none of my ceilings have cracked “ . Love this forum
 
Just waiting for the comments “you’ve not boarded it right “ “ you didn’t use paper tapes” “ you don’t know what your doing “ and best one “ none of my ceilings have cracked “ . Love this forum

Was over skim mate I rarely overboard . Ceiling was perfect other than the crack they created .
 
Trouble with overskims is if the existing was 9.5 boards and centres wrong with no noggins your just risking cracks again. Overboard with 12.5 and your in full control of the outcome.

I double sheeted, staggered the joints on the second boards so it was all different and used noggins on first board. Still cracked.
 
101 ways to board a ceiling

@zombie already said it right. If joists are moving, there’s nothing a plasterer can do.
You can you can bang plywood/osb up on the ceiling joists then put the ceiling slabs onto them. Just works out expensive but at least your trainee won't fall through the ceiling when he's up in the loft.
 
Run out of blue film window protector, got a big dash coming up once new Windows etc fitted, who's got best deal on window protector or anything you use that's quick, easy and better ?
 
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