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Chatting to a guy today, was thinking to check out there course and materials information day , anyone been or used the stuff ?
 
Danny said:
I have heard about it... not ever seen it mentioned on here though
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Same spoke to them today I made an enquiry last week , tbf sounded brilliant system and like the sound of it they sending some stuff tomorrow and hopefully get upto there information course for two days , thought some on here might of used it now or been on the days training already
 
It is a load of s**t.

£1200 for the course, £250 yearly membership, £200 (inc VAT) for a bucket.

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It's always on LinkedIn. Looked a decent idea till I seen the cost. Be a tough sell I reckon. It's been on grand designs. It's another fad. We need it like we need another flexible trowel. So am guessing @GrantyBoy is right. It's perfect for Vincent
 
Guy said it can spray straight onto most surfaces if sound and it’s crack free tbh I thought more of the regular renderers on here had maybe already used it , I’m surprised to see such negative views on it tbf but seems the general consensus, besides @Mr White have any of the others commenting actually used it ?

And can mr white tell us a bit more about where or when he’s used it negative and positive for general information for us all
Thanks
 
One thing guy did say that caught my ear was that if you have a big area to do could stop say halfway down a gable then come back the next day and pick up where left off no need for wet edge , is that true ?
 
The product was used on numerous occasions.

We attended the course after falling hook, line and sinker for the sales patter that comes after enquiring about the product.

The product isn’t bad when covering a solid, uniform background but does not cover any imperfections or changes in substrate at all.

Ghosting is a major flaw, remove flaking paint and spray over a mix of exposed S&C and sound paint will lead to problems. Spray over S&C patched up with any other basecoat of a different colour will lead to problems. Spray over any panel/area where inconsistent pulling in may occur and you will have problems.

Priming with a top coat primer to hopefully achieve a uniform colour and consistent suction does not work.

The course was not worth the £1200. We were asked more questions than we asked them. The constant pulling down of monocouche and how poor it was in comparison and how you could cork Render 3 houses a week and earn £250,000 a year became tiresome.

The constant references to Kevin F*****g McCloud and Grenfell tower.

We found the drying times to be slow, with further coats covering no better. Phone calls to the manufacturer were met with “you need to carry on applying” very easy to say when it’s £200 a tub.

The picture above is a full tub by the way.

We were promised some feature videos and promotional stuff that never materialised, the only time they came to site was to drop gear off.

And to top it off they called me in February to ask for my apprentices details as he was an approved contractor and they needed to bill him £250 in Sept, the kid was on £154.00 a week at the time.
 
ive had samples.and lit of this gear and just from.sample. i cant see anyone in my region liking the texture.mm like.selling stone to a town house..its utter shite and over priced
 
Mr White said:
The product was used on numerous occasions.

We attended the course after falling hook, line and sinker for the sales patter that comes after enquiring about the product.

The product isn’t bad when covering a solid, uniform background but does not cover any imperfections or changes in substrate at all.

Ghosting is a major flaw, remove flaking paint and spray over a mix of exposed S&C and sound paint will lead to problems. Spray over S&C patched up with any other basecoat of a different colour will lead to problems. Spray over any panel/area where inconsistent pulling in may occur and you will have problems.

Priming with a top coat primer to hopefully achieve a uniform colour and consistent suction does not work.

The course was not worth the £1200. We were asked more questions than we asked them. The constant pulling down of monocouche and how poor it was in comparison and how you could cork Render 3 houses a week and earn £250,000 a year became tiresome.

The constant references to Kevin F*****g McCloud and Grenfell tower.

We found the drying times to be slow, with further coats covering no better. Phone calls to the manufacturer were met with “you need to carry on applying” very easy to say when it’s £200 a tub.

The picture above is a full tub by the way.

We were promised some feature videos and promotional stuff that never materialised, the only time they came to site was to drop gear off.

And to top it off they called me in February to ask for my apprentices details as he was an approved contractor and they needed to bill him £250 in Sept, the kid was on £154.00 a week at the time.
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Thanks for the reply mate appreciate it , tbf for a new member that’s a great feedback .
And welcome to forum
 
Vincey said:
And can mr white tell us a bit more about where or when he’s used it negative and positive for general information for us all
Thanks
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Vincey he stated £1200 course 250 a year membership and 200 quid per bucket and you're still enquiring. Even if the directors wife came round to every job I used it on and gave me a blowjob I just would not entertain it at those numbers.
 
GrantyBoy said:
Vincey he stated £1200 course 250 a year membership and 200 quid per bucket and you're still enquiring. Even if the directors wife came round to every job I used it on and gave me a blowjob I just would not entertain it at those numbers.
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Fair play mate yes obviously £1200 I saw that but just asked for a more in depth review of using the product, tbf for a new ish product trying to get into U.K. market the fee probably gonna be high as any company starts out but obviously if product is not to good it’s a shame as first looked very appealing tbh
 
It's difficult enough pricing and winning jobs using pre bagged materials at times could you imagine pricing against other firms and you were using this? You would get laughed off the phone.
 
GrantyBoy said:
How far does a bucket go @Mr White it must cost many thousands in materials to do a house.
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It depends, the problem we had was it’s cork. It’s light and needs water added to weight it down to send through a hopper gun.

The more water you add the thinner it sprays, the thinner it’s sprays the more you open to ghosting. Not adding water just allows the material to sit in the hopper.

It will work going over existing substrates that are perfectly flat and uniform in colour and material. But who is going to ring you with a rendered house which is flat and solid wanting any work doing?

I have had buckets go as far as 15/20m2 but then on other jobs needed 11 buckets to cover 60m2

In colder months it sits on the wall and takes days to dry, you cannot then further spray until the previous coat has fully dried. They say 2/3 coats when we have sprayed 7/8 over 4 days with results that are still left wanting.
 
GrantyBoy said:
It's difficult enough pricing and winning jobs using pre bagged materials at times could you imagine pricing against other firms and you were using this? You would get laughed off the phone.
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Mate I only started the thread to find out about the product from any users , I remember nearly 7 years ago meeting fascouche from Italy at a plastering convention, they were trying to get into U.K. market most people walked by there stand not giving them time of day but now look everyone jumping around like they are the angel of god come to visit,
Always same problem in U.K. we are so slow to see anything good
 
Vincey said:
Mate I only started the thread to find out about the product from any users , I remember nearly 7 years ago meeting fascouche from Italy at a plastering convention, they were trying to get into U.K. market most people walked by there stand not giving them time of day but now look everyone jumping around like they are the angel of god come to visit,
Always same problem in U.K. we are so slow to see anything good
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What's fascouche??
 
Well cork samples come through does seem flexible :asadito::descansando:
Tbh I’m not sure about the course now but out of pure interest in new products thought I’d post it up for you miserable lot :inocente:
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Paying for a course is obsecene. your using there product, doing there marketing for them as well as there adverting and getting it out there to the public.
 
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