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on domestic work for the last two years i have charged about £150 a day for myself and i can probly skim an average room a day, thats how i work my prices out i just look how many days the multiply by 150.

wot i wana know is, wot is every one els charging? an is anyone puttin there prices up in new year cuz i was guna start charging £200
 
£150 for an average sized room seems seriously cheap btw, whether you can do in a day or not!

I wont be putting me prices up to 200 a day until the work is coming out me earholes, at the minute people dont seem to be accepting those prices, sometimes they do, but not all the time.
 
thats wot i mean mate, i thought £150 was a average rate for a plasterer. so if i do a living room say and i cove it in lets say two days then its £300 for me an £60 for the lab an lets say £70 for materials the total is £430.

would you say that is cheap and there is room to put my prices up or do you guys think that thats about rite?
 
well am guna start goin in at £200 a day an see how it goes, the last two years av bin goin in at £150 an i wud say i get around 95% of jobs i price.
 
kirk johnstone said:
thats wot i mean mate, i thought £150 was a average rate for a plasterer. so if i do a living room say and i cove it in lets say two days then its £300 for me an £60 for the lab an lets say £70 for materials the total is £430.

would you say that is cheap and there is room to put my prices up or do you guys think that thats about rite?
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that dont sound too bad mate for small/medium room, but I know guys who charge a lot more ( I charge around same as you personally, but regardless of size of room, even if it was a small utility room/toilet Id still probably charge 200+materials, anything that requires 3sets requires two days pay in my book, OR day and halfs pay (do in a long day)

but alls good, just work for what you happy to work for :)
 
Freerider_2009 said:
kirk johnstone said:
thats wot i mean mate, i thought £150 was a average rate for a plasterer. so if i do a living room say and i cove it in lets say two days then its £300 for me an £60 for the lab an lets say £70 for materials the total is £430.

would you say that is cheap and there is room to put my prices up or do you guys think that thats about rite?
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that dont sound too bad mate for small/medium room, but I know guys who charge a lot more ( I charge around same as you personally, but regardless of size of room, even if it was a small utility room/toilet Id still probably charge 200+materials, anything that requires 3sets requires two days pay in my book, OR day and halfs pay (do in a long day)

but alls good, just work for what you happy to work for :)
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wow so you want 2 days wages for 3 sets, guessing your a bit quite then at the mo
 
Love the attitude of people on this forum.

No Im not quiet, was working everyday up until xmas eve, all the spreads I work with do TWO sets a day, 150-200quid a day, if the room requires 3 sets ( an average sized from room or lounge) then thats two days work.

Charge what YOU like mate, but if I can make 300-400quid for when your making 150-200 then I have nothing to complain about.

I charge about £400 for an average sized 3x3m room, its the going rate where I live (London).

Why would I want to make life difficult for myself and work my tits off for a living, I want to ENJOY my work, if you want to work for peanuts, and your happy working for peanuts then so be it, but Im not!

your supposed to be a BUSINESS, not a charity, people want the best, they pay the money, simple as that.

Makes my blood boil with know it all comments like yours, are YOU busy? probably.. who wouldnt be working for peanuts even in this day and age.
 
haha who said im working for peanuts though, thing is 3 sets is most peoples usual day don't get me wrong so is 2 big sets but you said you want 2 days pay for what most guys do in a day.
i obviously touched a nerve there so ill leave it at that and say happy new year
 
I am talking two big sets mate, I wouldnt do a small downstairs toilet in 3 tiny sets and charge two days money :p

But then the question is, whats a big set, some class 3bag sets as big sets, others less, others more.

what I find is most site workers may do that amount in a day, but site workers have a different work ethic to domestic, it aint all about speed and metreage, but about quality!

Anyway, sorry I am in bit of a s**t mood this morning! last night went all pear shaped to say the least! (usually is an anti climax to the year though aint it)
 
WOT DO GAS FITTERS CHARGE PER DAY??????

we shud all put the price up £250 a day from now on even if its onley one hit a day an if anyone goes in cheaper they should be wrapped in skrim, coverd in driwall and hav 666 driwall screws poped in them hahahaha

wot do you recon lads ALL FOR ONE & ONE FOR ALL ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
 
lol thats the thing Kirk, If we ALL put our prices up and never charged below a certain amount then we'd never have to worry about being undercut.

Undercutting eachother doesnt help anyone, not even yourself in the long run, at the end of the day people will need plastering doing regardless of price!
 
Freerider_2009 said:
lol thats the thing Kirk, If we ALL put our prices up and never charged below a certain amount then we'd never have to worry about being undercut.

Undercutting eachother doesnt help anyone, not even yourself in the long run, at the end of the day people will need plastering doing regardless of price!
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is anyone else guna join the campaign
 
kirk johnstone said:
well am guna start goin in at £200 a day an see how it goes, the last two years av bin goin in at £150 an i wud say i get around 95% of jobs i price.
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You answered your own question Kirk, if you get the work you price then you must be about right, when you don't get it you are to dear, only put prices up when you get too much, an old hand taught me that.
 
kirk johnstone said:
Freerider_2009 said:
lol thats the thing Kirk, If we ALL put our prices up and never charged below a certain amount then we'd never have to worry about being undercut.

Undercutting eachother doesnt help anyone, not even yourself in the long run, at the end of the day people will need plastering doing regardless of price!
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is anyone else guna join the campaign
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Yeah, gonna have some soup first an then spark open the champagne ..tidy..
 
there is no way im joining this ridiculous campaing Kirk... why would i drop my prices to £250.00 a day???? sounds barmy if you ask me...
 
Always an interesting discussion - if I worked a long day I could comfortably knock an average sized room out - No way would I charge my daily rate (150) plus mats though - Id be looking for £400 just walls or £480 if its the ceiling aswell - the going rate down here in Dorset is about 90 quid a wall but I normally say 80

I once made the mistake of telling a customer how long a job would take and charged her my daily rate x the no. of days I told her

After hard graft I finished 2 days ahead of schedule and she tried to knock me down 300 quid for finishing early !

I politely explained to her it didnt work like that and had I finished 2 days LATER than expected would she have paid me an extra £300 - I think not so she paid up
 
Render Systems said:
there is no way im joining this ridiculous campaing Kirk... why would i drop my prices to £250.00 a day???? sounds barmy if you ask me...
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haha well i wud ask for more but i think £200 is ok for a days work, how much do you charge mate?
 
Depends on what your doing vs what you charge. Doing a few cupboards etc is gonna be day rate. I charge 160. Big rooms with a lot of metres are gonna be a m2 rate. I haven't done any m2 work for a long time but the price up here ranges from 3.50 to 9. Doing m2 needs to be big enough to make money on other wise you're knocking your pan in for (french word) all. The room I'm in right now, my room not a job, is well over 100m2. I could knock the walls out in a hard day and probably the ceiling too. Looking at 12 hours or so. So charging the day rates going to lose money when I could charge the going rates and walk out with an obsene amount.

Charge high if you wish. But don't take the (french word). You pay for what you get, so for 200 quid a day you better be (german word) hot. You can't supply a premium priced service that doesn't deliver.
 
RainbowThistlePlastering said:
Depends on what your doing vs what you charge. Doing a few cupboards etc is gonna be day rate. I charge 160. Big rooms with a lot of metres are gonna be a m2 rate. I haven't done any m2 work for a long time but the price up here ranges from 3.50 to 9. Doing m2 needs to be big enough to make money on other wise you're knocking your pan in for (french word) all. The room I'm in right now, my room not a job, is well over 100m2. I could knock the walls out in a hard day and probably the ceiling too. Looking at 12 hours or so. So charging the day rates going to lose money when I could charge the going rates and walk out with an obsene amount.

Charge high if you wish. But don't take the (french word). You pay for what you get, so for 200 quid a day you better be (german word) hot. You can't supply a premium priced service that doesn't deliver.
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your dead right mate and i do always leave the best work that i can (you are only as good as your last job).

in regards to doing 100m2 a day al leave that to the lads on site, i just take it easy and enjoy my work so i would probarbly do the room you were talking about over two days.

i used to go at it like a nutter all the time on site but you get no thanks for it just a bit more cash in the bank,
but now i do private work an there is much more job satisfaction an if i put my prices up to £200 a day then it will be the same money as site but for 7 hours not 10 like i used to. oh an you can tell tax man what you like too. :D :D :D :D cheers rainbow ;)
 
pristineplastering said:
Always an interesting discussion - if I worked a long day I could comfortably knock an average sized room out - No way would I charge my daily rate (150) plus mats though - Id be looking for £400 just walls or £480 if its the ceiling aswell - the going rate down here in Dorset is about 90 quid a wall but I normally say 80

I once made the mistake of telling a customer how long a job would take and charged her my daily rate x the no. of days I told her

After hard graft I finished 2 days ahead of schedule and she tried to knock me down 300 quid for finishing early !

I politely explained to her it didnt work like that and had I finished 2 days LATER than expected would she have paid me an extra £300 - I think not so she paid up
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thats what im getting at, I could also knock a room out a day if I worked long days all the time, but I dont want too, youd be killing yourself doing that sort of work on a day rate plus materials.
 
Freerider_2009 said:
pristineplastering said:
Always an interesting discussion - if I worked a long day I could comfortably knock an average sized room out - No way would I charge my daily rate (150) plus mats though - Id be looking for £400 just walls or £480 if its the ceiling aswell - the going rate down here in Dorset is about 90 quid a wall but I normally say 80

I once made the mistake of telling a customer how long a job would take and charged her my daily rate x the no. of days I told her

After hard graft I finished 2 days ahead of schedule and she tried to knock me down 300 quid for finishing early !

I politely explained to her it didnt work like that and had I finished 2 days LATER than expected would she have paid me an extra £300 - I think not so she paid up
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thats what im getting at, I could also knock a room out a day if I worked long days all the time, but I dont want too, youd be killing yourself doing that sort of work on a day rate plus materials.
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Exactly. It's all about the amount of time vs the money vs not being dead at the end of the day. If you can do a good job and keep the client happy then work your price how you need too. As long as your happy with the price you're getting and they're happy to pay it.
 
i think some of you guys misunderstood me when i said i can skim an average size room a day. not any size room a day.
i use three bags of skim per hit (i three coat most of the time) and i have two hits per day, if the room is bigger than what i can do in two hits then i price for two days, or three, or whatever it takes ;)

just thought i would clear that one up ::)
 
I always price my work on day rate + mats.

150 a day with a minimum charge of 100 for small works like overskim a small bathroom ceiling

say 6m2. Otherwise its not worth doing small jobs, some people seem to think just because they want a small

area of plastering doing it ll only take an hour.
 
Clients always phone and say its just a small celling they don't understand it all takes the same time to set big or small
 
When pricing up work I never go tight for time either like a 80m2 room over skim is always 2 days regardless if I can do it in a day or not.
 
carlos said:
When pricing up work I never go tight for time either like a 80m2 room over skim is always 2 days regardless if I can do it in a day or not.
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good man! quality not quantity

that's the way to do it ;)
 
pwi said:
Clients always phone and say its just a small celling they don't understand it all takes the same time to set big or small
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True, I had a lady phone me once she had 2 front bay windows fitted up & down.
She said it's back to brick on the reveals.
And she told ME it would only take me about an hr :D
She had newish carpets which she mentioned on the phone so that meant sheet 2rooms up where working plus the staircase, get tools out van, float & set reveals upstairs & downstairs, clean up - an hrs work??? ok then :D :D
I never did the job ;D
Also get the usual calls saying it's only a quick skim :D :D

The customer is always right?
Don't think so somehow!(unless they are a plasterer) ;D
 
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