external wall insulation regs

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Whats the crack with this new building regs requirement that if your re-rendering more than 25 % of the external wall area u need to insulate the walls.a company is advertising in the local rag and his ad says.;anyone found not to have abided by this Will be investigated amd Will be taken to the magistrate court and forced to do the works again. Is this right.surely not
 
It aint new news, that ruling has been in circulation for ages for houses that dont meet the current thermal values. it was a way for the gov to get houses up to date but putting the onus/cost on to the homeowner.

Has been discussed on here before do a quick search mate
 
I was told it would take £3,000 in court cost to take anyone to court over a bit of rendering it's bull-s**t.
 
Don't worry about this. It is a requirement that if a dwelling is going to have more than 25% re-rendered it will need Building Regs Approval, that is true. But it is the home owner that has to apply for it. To cover myself I explain this to my customers and most just ignore it. If they do apply they either have to get cavity wall insulation or if solid wall have a external insulation system or all the outside walls dot and abbed on the inside with insulated plasterboard. They cannot be made to have either and it will be on the local Council records that they have applied but not yet met building regs approval. When they come to sell the house the house buyer will have a local authority search done and when it is found that they have work has been done which has not yet been signed off they will not get a mortgage.

This has been in effect since April 2008 so for my chancers they will say the work was done prior to this date. I have myself been caught or rather the customer has been caught 3 times to date by a passing building inspector. 2 signed the forms there and then and paid the £90 fee after providing proof of cavity wall insulation the other said she intended leaving the house in a body bag and it will become the estates problem. He knows that I advise them both verbally and in writing so he leaves me out of it.
 
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Rigsby, I beleive you are a third party in the so called criminal act.

I recall a job where we was called in to carry out some plastering works in a grade 2 listed property. The contractor was merrily pulling down existing lathe and plaster ceilings , and replacing with new board and skim.All being done to a good standard.The local conservation officer just happened to walk by one day,lookied up into the bedroom window,which was open and witnessed a crime in action.

He approached the home owner and enquired as to what was being done.He later returned that day and issued an enforcement notice.The new ceilings had to come down,and new lathe and lime plaster put in place.Now the works were given a time scale of 3 months to be completed and faliure to comply was a £ 10,000 fine for the home owner and £ 3,000 for the contractor ( third party).Our company carried out the lime plastering works within the time scale and all was good.

My point is, you may be accountable for being involved with a so called illegal job.

I assume you have spoken to a solicitor regarding your position, and am sure you are wise enough not to discuss any legal issues on here in case of incrimination.
 
I rung up the building standards today and asked what would happen if they had found a job to have been done without applying for building reg approval. They said they would write to the home owner informing them that they have had work done illegally and until the work meets the current standard it will be registered on their system as having illegal work done not to current standard. Until the owner has the work done to current standard it is unlikely that the house will be mortgageable. So until they get the house insulated and passed off by the council it is unlikely that they will ever be able to sell the house.

I asked them if there is any comeback on the contractor and they no it is between the home owner and the council but it is best to inform the client at the the time of quoting in writing that they may need building regs approval so there is no comeback on you for not telling them. I have this information already in my terms and conditions.
 
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I rung up the building standards today and asked what would happen if they had found a job to have been done without applying for building reg approval. They said they would write to the home owner informing them that they have had work done illegally and until the work meets the current standard it will be registered on their system as having illegal work done not to current standard. Until the owner has the work done to current standard it is unlikely that the house will be mortgageable. So until they get the house insulated and passed off by the council it is unlikely that they will ever be able to sell the house.

I asked them if there is any comeback on the contractor and they no it is between the home owner and the council but it is best to inform the client at the the time of quoting in writing that they may need building regs approval so there is no comeback on you for not telling them. I have this information already in my terms and conditions.
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Keep it in the small print coz i recon most, when they see the cost and hassle kreeping up, they will not have the work done
 
I do written quotes with a copy. If the customer accepts the quote they send me back a copy signed. Makes me look professional and gives the customer some peace of mind. In return I also get a commitment off the customer and it eliminates hear say.

Bit of a hassle though doing everything in writing.
 
Just wondered if you used some kind of works contract template that you can download or a generic trade specific document rather than me trying to create my own.. its hard to know how far you should go with contracts just being a one man band. I havent been bumped on a job yet but have heard of plenty of lads losing a canny bit money, some of them have left to much money on the job to get at the end rather than taking a weekly lump and got stung
 
My small print is a result of clients taking the mick over the years. For example, water and electricity to be supplied at the customers expense. That was after some client deducted water and power supplied. Another is all electrical fittings to be removed prior to work starting, we will remove such fittings if the client accepts responsibility for loss or damage. That was after breaking a light fitting what hasn't been touched since it was fitted in 1937. Theres more but it is just to cover one self against being stung.
 
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