Just speakin from experience mate but to be honest I bought a crap van. It wasnt looked after at all and should have known better coz it was my ex bosses. DOH!craigpalmer18 said:i know what you saying bruce but i cant knock mine not had a problem with it yet. when i get tax rebate in summer i will be getting a new van thinking along the lines of a lwb medium roof transit then get a erbaspacher diesiel heater in so i can have the van defrost itself on a timer in winter nothing worse than getting in the cold frozen van at 6am brrrr