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anybody signing up as a green deal installer and is it going to be another money making scheme by the government, your work gets assessed and if you are acceptable you pay £395 plus vat for four types of work eg internal/external/floor insulation,upvc glazing and are you then guaranteed any work or is it going to be given to the big companies as i have heard british gas are apparantly training up all their own staff to have the monopoly of the work
 
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anybody signing up as a green deal installer and is it going to be another money making scheme by the government, your work gets assessed and if you are acceptable you pay £395 plus vat for four types of work eg internal/external/floor insulation,upvc glazing and are you then guaranteed any work or is it going to be given to the big companies as i have heard british gas are apparantly training up all their own staff to have the monopoly of the work
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Green Deal, is a dumbed down ISO9001 QMS.

Its to prevent cowboys and one man bands from undercutting the market and to potentially raise standards. First impressions of GD will be that rates will generally increase.
 
were involved with it, and the criteria you need to fulfil, consumes a lot of time, and in our case we had to show us previous profitability of my company before they even looked at us, so you had the fumds to run the project and not go bust halfway through.
 
Green Deal installers should have years of experience, proper training and accreditation through Stroma and Allkare UK has it all. he Department of Energy and Climate Change (DECC) and United Kingdom Accreditation Service (UKAS) created the Green Deal accreditation schemes, in which Stroma Certification is participating, to the BS EN 45011:1998 standard. For more information you can also go through the following link:
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The route to becoming an accredited Grean Deal Measure Installer: 1. Attend an accredited Green Deal Installers Training course and complete a NVQ in the relevant subject i.e L2 NVQ Certificate in Insulation and building Treatments - Internal Insulation 2. Once you have this, apply to one of the Green Deal Accreditation Bodies e.g Stroma, BBA etc to become a registered Installer; to do this they will tell you what you need to do e.g provide information like no of qualified installers on your books, your quality management process etc, you will then have to pay a fee to them and finally they will come out and assess the work of your installers or you (if your the only installer) beforefinally registering you as an accredited installer with themselves, you also are then subject to a yearly fee and regular inspections of your work. British Gas arent training up their staff they have bought out some of the bigger external wall insulation companies and are training them to be accredited so theycan claw back some of the money they have to pay back into the ECO scheme which runs alongside the Green Deal to help subside any measure, like external wall insulation, that doesnt meet the "golden rule" which is any measure installed must pay back for itself in the savings it makes with in the life time of the measure, which external wall insulation doesnt.
 
I'm a one man band, been in plastering & general building for ever, currently trying to position myself to become a registered EWI Green Deal installer. Lots of hoops to jump through and it is like wading through treacle .... but I think it will be worth it if I succeed. If there is anyone else out there who might be on this road and can give me some guidance it would be much appreciated.
Smudge505 suggests above attending a Green Deal Installers Training Course and complete an NVQ in the relevant subject, which sounds straight forward enough ..... but this is where the treacle wading started (for me). Any further guidance would be welcome, especially from anyone who has completed this journey or is well on their way. ......Thanks
 
Eamon said:
I'm a one man band, been in plastering & general building for ever, currently trying to position myself to become a registered EWI Green Deal installer. Lots of hoops to jump through and it is like wading through treacle .... but I think it will be worth it if I succeed. If there is anyone else out there who might be on this road and can give me some guidance it would be much appreciated.
Smudge505 suggests above attending a Green Deal Installers Training Course and complete an NVQ in the relevant subject, which sounds straight forward enough ..... but this is where the treacle wading started (for me). Any further guidance would be welcome, especially from anyone who has completed this journey or is well on their way. ......Thanks
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i take it youve been acredited with your PAS 2030 ?
 
Not yet owls, .....there's a lot of treacle and hoops between me and being accepted by one of the registration bodies, my understanding is that PAS20/30 can be purchased from the BSI website for £90.00 (ish) ....it can also be purchased from various private companies who will dress it up in my company name and charge me around £400.00.
Thats the easy bit, then you have to conform to PAS 20/30 document, my difficulty is that although I have been a plasterer/builder all my working life (40 years +) I don't have any formal qualifications to prove it. So I start to search the web for ways to get qualified. There's a lot of training establishments out there willing to take money off me with the promise of getting me where I want to be. Trouble is the catch 22 situation where they take your money and X amount of days out of your working life after which you have to have three site visits to EWI installs before you can be accepted as an installer for that particular manufacturer's system. Each manufacturer have their own individual system with their own approved installer list so you would need to take the training from all the manufacturers out there.
Under the Green Deal the EWI system used on any particular property has to carry that system's manufacturer warranty, lots of expensive treacle to wade through.
My preferred route would be via achieving an NVQ Level 2 which I believe would mean that I could install any manufacturers system .....although I would also over time take manufacturer training prior to installing any particular system.

At this point I am boring myself to tears so I will shut up for a while and see if anyone else has any info they would like to share to help dilute the treacle a bit.
 
Now a days there are many people who are looking for their career in Green Deal Training. But they should be confirmed that they get it from an experienced organization. The organization should be fully into the Green Deal so that they can provide the best training.
 
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