boardfinished
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proper spread me :RpS_cool:
how many of you have done a 3 year course?
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peterroberts
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Been thirty year course for me , learn something new all the time
boardfinished
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i think it means im trained properly and i was never used as a labourer
The Apprentice
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Funny enough I did a3 year course and for the 1st year all I was told was "if you can't mix it right you can't put it on the wall right". Top it all off, mixing in a bath with a shovel and skimming with a stick
Gibbo
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most who finished the 3 year course are good well taught spreads
S a plastering
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Remember mixing in a bath with the 3 pronged rake don't see them anymore an the 50kg bags hsb browning an carlite finish now that was a finish
Cranny77
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The spreads that taught me are 3rd generation spreads. Got all the tickets. I started on the stick and plunger and rake and shovel. But they still did naughty stuff. If I ever questioned him he was a d@"k for a few days. So I guess it's like driving you have to drive a certain way to pass after that you do what you like.
bobspread
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I remember doing all that ,I look back and how the **** did I manage to do all that
S a plastering
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Yup me too
plastererpeter
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Served me time with proper old school spreads them were the days
they never stopped moaning lol
they never stopped moaning lol
puddove
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Typical short coursers reply
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raggles
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thats you fuked then....
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Arti
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We all know your special marra ;-)
S a plastering
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Mines 2 inches
From the floor
From the floor
keithuk
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How do you plaster with no legs :RpS_confused:
Youve worked with a few rough uns they do exist but that's the same in every trade or craft. Maybe it's a generation thing and a lack off knowledgable and keen instructors? Then maybe what's being taught has been condensed so much the important stuff is left out and the idea if he can skim he might get by. I was taught in the eighties when being a tradesman and learning a craft was something worth going for and you was told it would be with you all your life and nobody could take it away, there would always be work and they were right but added at the end "but you need to be good and know why the plaster is acting the way it does". We have this place now where all the information is there and these lads coming on here are asking the questions they are not being taught, some of it is basic but this could be down to them being sick that day or not listening. So how are people coming off a course with basic knowledge and hardly any skill? The problem I think is these guys are not working for a spread most of the time so don't learn that much if anything. My apprenticeship was probably the best apprenticeship available and it needs to return (which I think it might listening to the **** the politicians are coming out with. I trained with the council who were building social housing, say three sites at once all done by apprentices from flaggers to roofers, every trade that was needed to build the house was done by apprentices being taught by instructors with 1st years to 4th years and this went on for about 6 years I'm aware of. I never learnt dot and dab on site or in college appart from the theory it was all float and set. This is what needs to return to sort out the building game and if it does qualifications will become more important than ever especially level three.
Done 4 year me! The problem I see is if they don't start using solid plastering again soon it will be lost completely. I've been plastering 12 year and in my apprenticeship I got in do every aspect of internal plastering for 8 years solid. I'm now working more on the maintenance side of our firm as we have no major works at the min.
I have an apprentice working with me and has done since he started September 2013 in this time at college he hasn't once floated a wall with Browning or even boarded a ceiling! I was lucky I worked with two old timers who spent time with me showning me everything I needed to know ( if it's under a bag I still use a posser lol ) now I'm trying to pass this on but all he wants to do is skim anything else is just too much hard work. This lad will have a level 2 in June but in all honesty it's a joke the whole training/industry needs a shake up.
I have an apprentice working with me and has done since he started September 2013 in this time at college he hasn't once floated a wall with Browning or even boarded a ceiling! I was lucky I worked with two old timers who spent time with me showning me everything I needed to know ( if it's under a bag I still use a posser lol ) now I'm trying to pass this on but all he wants to do is skim anything else is just too much hard work. This lad will have a level 2 in June but in all honesty it's a joke the whole training/industry needs a shake up.
if yo spend the vast majority of time at work dabbing and skimming, your not a full plasterer, more a skimmer, plasterers should be able to do all aspects of the trade.... training nowadays is a joke, its all about getting them through and getting the money for doing so...
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