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graniteman346

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Hi Plasterers. Ive just joined this site only moments ago. I called John Rowley of Capital Refurbs who advised me to go on here. I believe he is on here only i don't know his username.
I'll get to the point! I want to become a Plasterer and i want to work along side a good plasterer. Im 30 nyears old and i live in southend. I am currently a Stone Mason and fabricate granite kitchen tops and have been doing this for 14 years, but i break my back trying to make a living and it's just not giving me one. If there is any good Plasterers out there that are after reliable and a dependable person. I'd be a good Plasterer given the chance. Cheers!:RpS_thumbup:
 
if you think you break your back making granite work tops your in for a shock becoming a plasterer hardest most physical trade going and at the moment no a lot of work for not great reward .

good luck though
 
good luck fella.....keep the good attitude. Give urself away to work for the best......it's all about getting a foothold mate at your age.
 
Hi,

Dont want to waz on your bonfire fela but realy dont think its a good carear choice at the moment considering the climate but more importantly your age.

I dont mean this insultingly so let me try and explain if you were to be taken on tomorrow 1 your going to get minum wage MAX and thats not going to change for a good couple of yrs its likely to be apx 5 yrs before your comfy around a decent amount of work to start making a living PERHAPS...by then your 35 and with the hammer you put on your body by your mid 40s your likely to be in wrags.

Yes we all know there is the exceptions my grandad still knocks a room out a day and hes 98 bla bla bla but generaly mid to late 40s defo strugling.

If on the other hand you was 16 being paid a low wage and being able to live off it ie just beer money and board...time for recession to pick up and most importantly a body thats going to be good for 30 yrs id say crack on!

Trust me weeks are like months in this game!

Realy not trying to be arsey mate just being honest!

Good luck

Zombie:RpS_thumbup:
 
were you from southend on sea lol now thats a blast from the past lol were in southend m8
i doted about from fairfax drive/ambellside drive/haygate avenue/cluny then on to kent much much better here m8 lol
 
Thanks for the input fellas. (rockhardsolidplastering) Im as good as they come in my Profession. Being a Granite Fabricator is very hard going, Im not saying that Plastering is a doddle compared to what i do, My job hits me Physically aswell as Mentally rite from the preparation, templating to the fabricating to the fitting. unlike a Plasterer, Tiler, Plumber, Corgi, Sparky etc... I have commercial Rates to pay too aswell as my Household costs and i can't function on a little van either which again would be cheaper and more Practical to run around in. Ideally you need a FlatBed to be able to transport as big as Island Units, a Forklift Truck is required to unload your slabs. I doubt i'd need any of this for Plastering, lol. And ofcourse if something goes wrong with the Granite, it's my responsibility to cover anywhere from £500-£1500 to replace just 1 Slab. If something goes wrong Plastering whats it really gonna cost bar a bag of Plaster and your time. Theres just so much infrastructure involved, so much expense to keeping it going, people don't realise. Buying and selling Slabs is where the money is in this game, not the Fabricating. I have considered the Kitchen Fitting but i believe time is money and i've spent all my working life making things when i should have been making money by concentrating on in and out jobs. (Thats my Lesson learnt).
Hi d*m**o. I detest Southend, lol. House prices are high for what you get, Car Insurance is higher, road works all the time and those poxy Traffic Lights and i share my street with a lazy ass across the street that likes to take his shirt off first thing in the morning and smoke fags while me and my mrs are off to work trying to make ends meet. We had a pro living next door but now we have been fortunate to have new neighbours move in where the man of the house spends his day binjing infront of the tv preparing for a nite in with he, himself and spliff. Kent sounds good to me, lol.
I don't really know what the best thing to do, but what i do know is what im doing is not enough. Mmmhh, Tiling maybe. What the hell i shaped them for Tilers so why not lay them??
 
over heads and running costs are a curse and yes as a 1man band plasterer you dont need any.in your game if a 1 man band needs all those over heads surely every one in that game has them so at least thast helps when pricing.

times are bad i hear you it is scarey but its the same for us .in the last 3 years our rates on sites are down 30 -40%.

you sound talented and confident but plastering will take some years to master as you say tiling may be good,if i were a "handy" type i would run a handyman business that might be a way forward.

as i say good luck
 
Good luck mate but like the lads say don't think you can walk into it it's one of the hardest trades to learn
 
do you not think that polished concrete worktops could be the way forward?ive been asked a few times to do them(ive always declined)but theres deffo a market there.your outlay isnt gonna be massive and if you check it out on google the applications for concrete are a step forward from granite etc
 
Good Luck

If you want something bad enough then you can get it but plastering will destroy whats left of you :-)

I still like it though
 
Forget tiling mate its gone the same way as plastering loads of coursers who dont know what a decent days money is,last job i was on customer had Poles do the granite worktops, hate to say it but it was a top job and they were busy, not telling you to suck eggs but you need to advertise in the more wealthier parts of London there is work out there for your game but you need to fight for it.
 
Danny said:
I always thought stone masons were the top trade and like a profession to be proud of???
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We were all classed as craftsman years ago Dan but rarely nowadays as most trades nowadays are poorly trained as in plasterers who can only skim, bricklayers who can only build cavity walls etc
 
oh come on luscius mate, ive never known a brickie who could build a cavity wall but not a solid 9 incher... :RpS_laugh:

well, a solid 9" wall anyway... :huh:
 
Further to our conversation graniteman346 the business to be in nowdays is 1. MP 2. Banker
3. Eastern European because all you have to do is work for an agency on temporary contact for a year then become unemployed then you are entitled to state benefits, bring the family over rent a 4 bed house paid for by the state, money for the wife and kids with a little bit of cash in the hand work i.e plastering a house out for £40.00 a day who says the UK isn't the land of milk and honey.
 
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Further to our conversation graniteman346 the business to be in nowdays is 1. MP 2. Banker
3. Eastern European because all you have to do is work for an agency on temporary contact for a year then become unemployed then you are entitled to state benefits, bring the family over rent a 4 bed house paid for by the state, money for the wife and kids with a little bit of cash in the hand work i.e plastering a house out for £40.00 a day who says the UK isn't the land of milk and honey.
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Chris W said:
oh come on luscius mate, ive never known a brickie who could build a cavity wall but not a solid 9 incher... :RpS_laugh:

well, a solid 9" wall anyway... :huh:
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Chriss mate ime bricky by trade and i dont know anyone these days who could set out a house properly in lets say something simple like Flemish bond without getting threequarters up the frame here and there ,most architectss who new how to do a drawing to facilitate quarter bond are dead or well retired, anyone can build a cavity wall, no they cant ive seen that fcuked up loads of time.
 
over the head a bit that mate....
but flemish and english? does it make a difference then when you come to the windows etc? still either one in three or every other one innit? I aint no brickie btw but i can build a garden wall or a cavity wall.... who's built a solid 9 in the last 50 years?
 
Capital spread said:
Further to our conversation graniteman346 the business to be in nowdays is 1. MP 2. Banker
3. Eastern European because all you have to do is work for an agency on temporary contact for a year then become unemployed then you are entitled to state benefits, bring the family over rent a 4 bed house paid for by the state, money for the wife and kids with a little bit of cash in the hand work i.e plastering a house out for £40.00 a day who says the UK isn't the land of milk and honey.
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there are just as many if not more british doing number 3
 
one thing i defo wont do... these days, or at least in my city, theyre run by eastern europeans... talk about slowly takin over...
 
if the english are now workin for the poles... :RpS_crying: well what a sad bunch of c'nts we are, shown up by a race that had it bad, and went for whatever they could get their hands on...
 
Chris W said:
over the head a bit that mate....
but flemish and english? does it make a difference then when you come to the windows etc? still either one in three or every other one innit? I aint no brickie btw but i can build a garden wall or a cavity wall.... who's built a solid 9 in the last 50 years?
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Setting out the bonding around windows or doors is the most imortant thing in any quarter bond Chriss, English and Flemish use header closure on corners and reveals to create the bond whereas others such as English cross bond and Monk bond to name just a couple use threequarters.Quarter bond is still used nowadays when matching an extension to an existing building built in 9inch quarterbond the extension is built in matching bond but in cavity with snapped headers. The trouble is architects today dont understand how to give the correct measurements to make the bonding work which often means breaking the bond under frames to maintain header closure on reveals.
 
Capital spread said:
Further to our conversation graniteman346 the business to be in nowdays is 1. MP 2. Banker
3. Eastern European because all you have to do is work for an agency on temporary contact for a year then become unemployed then you are entitled to state benefits, bring the family over rent a 4 bed house paid for by the state, money for the wife and kids with a little bit of cash in the hand work i.e plastering a house out for £40.00 a day who says the UK isn't the land of milk and honey.
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Update on my previous whinge my brother is a painter & decorator on a big site in London 800 men on this site 63 of them are English.
 
thats life im afraid , plastering is still a great trade to be in , but things have moved on , contractors can see the obvious benefit of cheap eastern eropean labour , and who can blame them , but we have to stick to our guns , i still employ 2 improvers along with my regular plasterers , all of which are English . my main contractors are happy ... ish to pay a premium to know ill always be around and give them what they want when they want and not **** off if theres another 50p to be earned
 
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