:RpS_thumbup:.. so.. serious points here.. been losing a few jobs lately ( still busy ) being under cut, do you think we should stick to our prices , after all you get what you pay for, however this all well and good but it dont pay the bills, or drop prices to compete with ( how can I put this.... the nobheads ) ?? I am proud of being a plasterer and always do a good job the right way, no rough arse short cuts. but does the customer know what their getting... ie. i price a reskim using bond it.. someone else prices using PVA.. does the customer understand how much bond it costd compared to PVA.. or do they care.. I price a rendering job using rendaid.. competition doesnt, cost of rendaid, then cost of applying it.. should we not care just to get the work, or keep it premier league... personally i will keep it top end, if im tiling I use Weber single part flexible, which is for ply floors, I also use this on concrete floors... I use bal white star on all wall tiling jobs ( unless porcelain, marble etc ) I always keep the materials top end, which produces a better job with no come backs... but do customers really care ?? anyway took me ages to think of a decent 1,000 poster and I AM THE MAN... great forum with great people.. yes I can be a cockend, but I dont mean owt nasty... well most of the time :RpS_wink: