Is this a better method then normal gypsum skimming?

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discuss pro's and con's
 
This is meant to be even better - I have a sample bucket to play with next week
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Only thing you can tell from that is that there's something on the walls and lids whats the standard of the finished product any idea's? .
 
For special situations it may be a good option (areas of extreme cross light) but for run of the mill jobs it's to many stages and fannying around to catch on IMHO.
 
essexandy said:
For special situations it may be a good option (areas of extreme cross light) but for run of the mill jobs it's to many stages and fannying around to catch on IMHO.
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The last video is Sheetrock Tuff Hide it does take longer but im told its the highest quality finish you can get in a drylining system .
The first 2 featuring the frenchy's are just tape and fill the tapered edge boards then spray 2 coats. The application is slower the spraying gypsum based products but quicker then hand. The speed of machine setup, accuracy of spray, lack of water and wate, superior finish and anti cracking properties of the acrylic resins its made from mean it worth looking in to do you not think?

Maybe im just mental :flapper:
 
Yep mate you're mad I can't see anyone paying for this and also I don't think it's any quicker than hand applying.
 
So your taping and jointing it basically then spraying over that? The cost must be obscene. Can't see anyone paying for that in the current market
 
CurrierPlastering said:
The last video is Sheetrock Tuff Hide it does take longer but im told its the highest quality finish you can get in a drylining system .
The first 2 featuring the frenchy's are just tape and fill the tapered edge boards then spray 2 coats. The application is slower the spraying gypsum based products but quicker then hand. The speed of machine setup, accuracy of spray, lack of water and wate, superior finish and anti cracking properties of the acrylic resins its made from mean it worth looking in to do you not think?

Maybe im just mental :flapper:
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Of course you're mental, we all are or we wouldn't to spending our time on here.
I think it's worth looking at Steve. Not for everyday use but when someone asks for a certain level of finish and you're the only one who can promise to achieve it well, kerrching.
 
barryed said:
So your taping and jointing it basically then spraying over that? The cost must be obscene. Can't see anyone paying for that in the current market
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Tape and fill tapered edge. We do this when skimming. Then two coats same a skimming

Material does cost more
 
These systems are similar to any machine applied system. Its designed with quick turnaround and less manpower. You could train someone to apply this system much quicker than training someone to skim the areas. Then you supply the kit and pay them much less than you would need to pay a real spread.
Decorators are big users of the systems in Europe
 
Steve, you need to be looking at these things as a serious investment, it's not just your money but your time to, there are a 100 other ways of reaping bigger, better rewards.
 
Wezly said:
Steve, you need to be looking at these things as a serious investment, it's not just your money but your time to, there are a 100 other ways of reaping bigger, better rewards.
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But he could end up in prison :RpS_scared:
 
It should be banned,it's just another quick fix ,which in time will kill off the trade if accepted as a skilled trade or finish ,hawks and trowels all the way ,I feel the same way about sprayed on renders as well ,now I gonna get down off this banana box


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SPREADS said:
It should be banned,it's just another quick fix ,which in time will kill off the trade if accepted as a skilled trade or finish ,hawks and trowels all the way ,I feel the same way about sprayed on renders as well ,now I gonna get down off this banana box


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You come and work with some machine teams , i think you may change your mind ,it is only a tool to put it on the wall with ,just a lot faster and easy on the old bones :RpS_thumbup:
 
keithuk said:
You come and work with some machine teams , i think you may change your mind ,it is only a tool to put it on the wall with ,just a lot faster and easy on the old bones :RpS_thumbup:
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And less men !!!!,we put it on by hand


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Hey Keith Holland and Barrett are doing a 2 for 1 on glucosamine and cod liver oil lol


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These type of videos always make laugh, if they are going to make I real let's have windows, sockets, internal angles, external angles oh and a F*****g ceiling. One video shows a diagram of a block of flats all ready to go that never happens also with the system which looks like two or three day system what happens when that wall can't be done or that ceiling? Yep you guessed it three days to do one ceiling that the electrician didn't get his wires in oh and what about patching?
 
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Capitalism at its best ,with all due respect


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Does sound a bit like that mate i agree , i do think paddle mixers have also killed the trade , as most spreads don,t need a labourer ,so less are learning ,but i would not stop using it and get the tin bath out for that reason , with love and kisses :RpS_thumbup:
 
Well I must be a great guy ,I have a skin and I got him a drill ,don't fancy baiting **** out of my buckets or whisk at the end of the day ,lots of love pal,might throw a few fucks into the skin in the morning ,let him know he has it handy


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SPREADS said:
Well I must be a great guy ,I have a skin and I got him a drill ,don't fancy baiting **** out of my buckets or whisk at the end of the day ,lots of love pal,might throw a few fucks into the skin in the morning ,let him know he has it handy

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:RpS_lol: , buy him a machine for render and he will love you forever :RpS_wub:
 
flynnyman said:
These type of videos always make laugh, if they are going to make I real let's have windows, sockets, internal angles, external angles oh and a F*****g ceiling. One video shows a diagram of a block of flats all ready to go that never happens also with the system which looks like two or three day system what happens when that wall can't be done or that ceiling? Yep you guessed it three days to do one ceiling that the electrician didn't get his wires in oh and what about patching?
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Get your contract sorted with revisit costs :)

I'm not bigging up the system or putting it down. I'll find a ceiling vid it works really well

We are getting a lot tenders through for this so it must be gaining some momentum. The standard system of two coats doesn't cost much more then skim.

Second system with Tuff Hide only needs one coat of paint so its meant to cost the contractor less in the long run.
 
Good luck with getting your revisit costs lol you were pulling your hair out last week coz of some agent pulling your work to **** and you think your gonna get extra for a ceiling and wall you have already priced?
 
Is this the same as @knaufs Airless?

I have used it and i am not convinced but I think it may soon become common on sites.... Its better than taping and jointing in my eyes... but not much :-)
 
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Danny said:
Is this the same as @knaufs Airless?

I have used it and i am not convinced but I think it may soon become common on sites.... Its better than taping and jointing in my eyes... but not much :-)
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Yep its the same just different brands. Why were you not convinced? What's its down fall. why is tape and jointing not as good as gypsum skim?
 
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CurrierPlastering said:
Yep its the same just different brands. Why were you not convinced? What's its down fall. why is tape and jointing not as good as gypsum skim?
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Skimmed walls are stronger and like I said in an earlier thread if a wall or ceiling can't be done it's a pain in the arse to go and finish
 
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