Is this a rendering job or will external masonry filler work just as well?

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Hi guys! This is my first post, so go easy on me, haha! :D


We have just had a patio done. To ensure a solid patio base, the workmen dug a good 10" down and as a result, once everything was finished, a strip of unrendered and unpainted wall has now appeared (previously this was not seen as there was soil).


https://s990.photobucket.com/user/superiorsounds/media/new1_zps730a2a0a.jpg.html


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The strip is about 3 - 4 inches tall. I'd like to have ago at mending this myself.


What's the best way to fix this?


(a) Apply a proper render mix
(b) Apply external masonry filler
(c) Other - pls suggest


Once the strip has been filled, I will paint it with white masonry paint to match.


Thanks in advance for any help!


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I would use cuts of your slabs an form a nice upstand...would finish it off nice:RpS_thumbup:
just a thought.:RpS_unsure:
 
Fatarms way is a goodun , very hard to patch that in with out it looking like a patch , would look like it was ment to be like that with a upstand :RpS_thumbup:
 
You dont wanna render down to the floor anyway...............Fatarms idea is as good as owt...........or just move the bins infront of it...................:RpS_thumbup:
 
Hello folks. I'm confused why it would look like a patch? Once the render / filler dries, it will be given a quick coat of paint. The whole front was painted only 3 weeks ago, so it's all pretty fresh. What am I missing?
 
you should ideally have a run off in there, doesn't look like it has one, maybe stick a bit of black rubber around it at an angle to act as a run off and also match your swish patio aswell.
 
a run off your wall on your house, it's a thing called a bell bead goes about 9 inces of the ground when the water runs down your render it pushes it away from the bottom of your wall. not sure what to suggest, highly unlikely you could retrofit it unless you neatly angle grinded off a foot at the bottom and re rendered it that way, would neaten up the existing issue you have also, sure someone on here will be able to give you more advice.
 
You will have trouble with a buyers surveyor if you patched this up as you suggest. Have a renderer come and fit a bell/drip bead at least 150mm up from the ground. The patio should be at least 150mm below your dpc so fit the bead to your dpc and you could then render below the bead down to your patio slabs and the bead acts as a dpc in line with your existing one but a dpc for the rendering.

Easy job.
 
Ayye , got me trowel the day mate looks canny , me dads gunna have to sort the top side out like pulling down from ceiling on a wall side , its got a tiny bow the opposite way ? Lol he said he will sort it though :RpS_thumbup:
 
Havnt even used it yet lol just looking along the blade the other side is spot on like just up a touch top and bottom , looks like a canny trowel like give it a run oot the moro
 
Rigsby said:
You will have trouble with a buyers surveyor if you patched this up as you suggest. Have a renderer come and fit a bell/drip bead at least 150mm up from the ground. The patio should be at least 150mm below your dpc so fit the bead to your dpc and you could then render below the bead down to your patio slabs and the bead acts as a dpc in line with your existing one but a dpc for the rendering.
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Hi fella, thanks for your reply. I see what you're saying and it's logical, but that is how the property was prior to the ground level being taken down a notch (ie. rendering seems to have gone right to the ground) and also, my surveyor said that because of its age (around 1850s) my property doesn't have a DPC...I challenged him and suggested it might have a slate DPC but he said unlikely and in any case, apparently slate DPCs were not very effective as the slate was usually crushed under all the weight.
 
raytheplasterer said:
a run off your wall on your house, it's a thing called a bell bead goes about 9 inces of the ground when the water runs down your render it pushes it away from the bottom of your wall. not sure what to suggest, highly unlikely you could retrofit it unless you neatly angle grinded off a foot at the bottom and re rendered it that way, would neaten up the existing issue you have also, sure someone on here will be able to give you more advice.
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Thanks for the advice, Ray :)
 
SillyBilly said:
Hi fella, thanks for your reply. I see what you're saying and it's logical, but that is how the property was prior to the ground level being taken down a notch (ie. rendering seems to have gone right to the ground) and also, my surveyor said that because of its age (around 1850s) my property doesn't have a DPC...I challenged him and suggested it might have a slate DPC but he said unlikely and in any case, apparently slate DPCs were not very effective as the slate was usually crushed under all the weight.
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surveyors are a law to themselves.
 
I don't know what to do gents. :(

What I'd like to do is carefully render, as follows:

1. Clean existing brickwork with brush

2. Apply a 2:1 sand:cement slurry

3. Apply scratch coat of 3:1 plastering sand:portland cement + Everbuild Febond SBR

4. Wait for scratch coat to begin drying, then apply 2nd coat of 4:1 sand:portland cement + SBR addmix

5. Leave a month, sand / fill any imperfection, then paint with quality masonry paint

Any good?
 
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