Is this bad plastering?

Claire_

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Hi everyone! I'd like some advice on some newly done plastering. Skim coat on top of existing plaster (original with house aged 1935). I understand it won't be as good as skimming over plasterboard and this was fully my decision not to do. PVA bond and mesh has been used throughout, as well as fixing some blown areas. Photos are taken in dark with a flashlight to explain what I am feeling with my hands - I know doing this can shown imperfections on basically perfect walls. I'm also showing you the worst areas and I am happy with the majority of it, but of course not the areas I'm showing here. Quote wasn't worryingly cheap and not outrageous . Basically in the middle of a few quotes and matched what to expect from online articles/sources.

The plaster is general silky smooth to the touch in 85% of areas but has ripples/broad bumps etc when you feel across the wall. Some are broad across larger areas and some are small and cover smaller areas. There are also areas with crazing (with super tiny cracks appearing along some of the lines) and what I can only but call skim-acne (tiny bubbles/pimples). Most of these 'issues' don't show in daylight or with the ceiling light on, but I'm concerned it will once painted and with a lamp light (as preferred).

So, my general questions are:
1) Is this a bad plastering job? I feel it's a B- with room for improvement.
2) Should I not accept the response of 'you can sand and poly fill the issue areas', and ask for him to do touchups? I expected a skim coat to be practically good to go to decorate with some minor prep to ensure a higher quality finish. This will take a good few hours to identify the issue areas, sand, dust down, poly fill, sand and dust down again.
3) Not take the reason for the ripples/bumps being due to the plaster underneath? To add to this, the pre-skimmed walls weren't perfect but I never felt ripples like this. They were basically flat, and had just seen far too much wallpaper removal!
4) How to tackle the skim-acne?
5) Accept the outcome as it is at my extra work/expense? Maybe the higher quote would have given a glass finish....

More plastering is to be done and I have felt the pre-skimmed walls for any ripples/bumps. There basically aren't any, so I'll put the 'its the state of the walls underneath' reason to the test.

Thanks to anyone and all who help here! xx
 

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oh dear,
that is bad, where are you based claire,

have you paid your bill, if so how much,
you need to get a plasterer in,

in the meantime, have a glass of wine, put you tube on, creedance clearwater revival, song called have you ever seen the rain, press search and play, also anything by the doors/jim morrisson, calm down, these songs should help get you through the night,

the cavalry usually start turning up early /5.0 am,
dont be offended by them, any jokes/comments, etc , just give as much back, you go girl,

somewhere inbetween the hilarity, there will be some good replies, keep popping back in over the next few days,
now, on a friday night , casper one of our scottish brethern, posts photos every friday night on here, on what he and mrs, casper are going to eat that night, yes i know what you are thinking claire, these lads live life on the edge/exciting,
so anyhooooooooooooo off to bed now,
 
That is crap, sorry but you know the answer, lots of sanding and filler, whether you want to try to get him to do it is up to you. But dont use him on the rest of your house. Can’t be sure but the pimples look like they were caused by wall paper paste. The light is vicious but even so that’s crap
 
Hi everyone! I'd like some advice on some newly done plastering. Skim coat on top of existing plaster (original with house aged 1935). I understand it won't be as good as skimming over plasterboard and this was fully my decision not to do. PVA bond and mesh has been used throughout, as well as fixing some blown areas. Photos are taken in dark with a flashlight to explain what I am feeling with my hands - I know doing this can shown imperfections on basically perfect walls. I'm also showing you the worst areas and I am happy with the majority of it, but of course not the areas I'm showing here. Quote wasn't worryingly cheap and not outrageous . Basically in the middle of a few quotes and matched what to expect from online articles/sources.

The plaster is general silky smooth to the touch in 85% of areas but has ripples/broad bumps etc when you feel across the wall. Some are broad across larger areas and some are small and cover smaller areas. There are also areas with crazing (with super tiny cracks appearing along some of the lines) and what I can only but call skim-acne (tiny bubbles/pimples). Most of these 'issues' don't show in daylight or with the ceiling light on, but I'm concerned it will once painted and with a lamp light (as preferred).

So, my general questions are:
1) Is this a bad plastering job? I feel it's a B- with room for improvement.
2) Should I not accept the response of 'you can sand and poly fill the issue areas', and ask for him to do touchups? I expected a skim coat to be practically good to go to decorate with some minor prep to ensure a higher quality finish. This will take a good few hours to identify the issue areas, sand, dust down, poly fill, sand and dust down again.
3) Not take the reason for the ripples/bumps being due to the plaster underneath? To add to this, the pre-skimmed walls weren't perfect but I never felt ripples like this. They were basically flat, and had just seen far too much wallpaper removal!
4) How to tackle the skim-acne?
5) Accept the outcome as it is at my extra work/expense? Maybe the higher quote would have given a glass finish....

More plastering is to be done and I have felt the pre-skimmed walls for any ripples/bumps. There basically aren't any, so I'll put the 'its the state of the walls underneath' reason to the test.

Thanks to anyone and all who help here! xx
Dogshit

But did you tell him you're installing torches everywhere?
 
Hi everyone! I'd like some advice on some newly done plastering. Skim coat on top of existing plaster (original with house aged 1935). I understand it won't be as good as skimming over plasterboard and this was fully my decision not to do. PVA bond and mesh has been used throughout, as well as fixing some blown areas. Photos are taken in dark with a flashlight to explain what I am feeling with my hands - I know doing this can shown imperfections on basically perfect walls. I'm also showing you the worst areas and I am happy with the majority of it, but of course not the areas I'm showing here. Quote wasn't worryingly cheap and not outrageous . Basically in the middle of a few quotes and matched what to expect from online articles/sources.

The plaster is general silky smooth to the touch in 85% of areas but has ripples/broad bumps etc when you feel across the wall. Some are broad across larger areas and some are small and cover smaller areas. There are also areas with crazing (with super tiny cracks appearing along some of the lines) and what I can only but call skim-acne (tiny bubbles/pimples). Most of these 'issues' don't show in daylight or with the ceiling light on, but I'm concerned it will once painted and with a lamp light (as preferred).

So, my general questions are:
1) Is this a bad plastering job? I feel it's a B- with room for improvement.
2) Should I not accept the response of 'you can sand and poly fill the issue areas', and ask for him to do touchups? I expected a skim coat to be practically good to go to decorate with some minor prep to ensure a higher quality finish. This will take a good few hours to identify the issue areas, sand, dust down, poly fill, sand and dust down again.
3) Not take the reason for the ripples/bumps being due to the plaster underneath? To add to this, the pre-skimmed walls weren't perfect but I never felt ripples like this. They were basically flat, and had just seen far too much wallpaper removal!
4) How to tackle the skim-acne?
5) Accept the outcome as it is at my extra work/expense? Maybe the higher quote would have given a glass finish....

More plastering is to be done and I have felt the pre-skimmed walls for any ripples/bumps. There basically aren't any, so I'll put the 'its the state of the walls underneath' reason to the test.

Thanks to anyone and all who help here! xx

No plasterer visited you property

Wakey wakey
 
Dogshit

But did you tell him you're installing torches everywhere?
Unfortunately the hallway has angular light shining upwards during the day and downwards during the nighttime, so there's no escaping that wall. May just need to get a serious pro in to redo that wall at least and as others have said a lot of filling and sanding on repeat
 

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oh dear,
that is bad, where are you based claire,

have you paid your bill, if so how much,
you need to get a plasterer in,

in the meantime, have a glass of wine, put you tube on, creedance clearwater revival, song called have you ever seen the rain, press search and play, also anything by the doors/jim morrisson, calm down, these songs should help get you through the night,

the cavalry usually start turning up early /5.0 am,
dont be offended by them, any jokes/comments, etc , just give as much back, you go girl,

somewhere inbetween the hilarity, there will be some good replies, keep popping back in over the next few days,
now, on a friday night , casper one of our scottish brethern, posts photos every friday night on here, on what he and mrs, casper are going to eat that night, yes i know what you are thinking claire, these lads live life on the edge/exciting,
so anyhooooooooooooo off to bed now,
Thank you for your sincere support hector. I guess it is spooky season so definitely exciting seeing plastering horrors on here
Watch from afar....same distance as you would need to look at these walls to think they don't need anymore work
 
That is crap, sorry but you know the answer, lots of sanding and filler, whether you want to try to get him to do it is up to you. But dont use him on the rest of your house. Can’t be sure but the pimples look like they were caused by wall paper paste. The light is vicious but even so that’s crap
I wanted more dust and work anyway. The whole house chasing, tons of wood chip wallpaper removal, opening uncapped chimney breasts (although I found a cheese and onion mini roll so can't complain too much) and months of other demo just hasn't been enough for me

I guess advice to others: don't be tempted to do multiple rooms at once unless you absolutely know the plasterer is topnotch.
 
Unfortunately the hallway has angular light shining upwards during the day and downwards during the nighttime, so there's no escaping that wall. May just need to get a serious pro in to redo that wall at least and as others have said a lot of filling and sanding on repeat
He’s tried to staple the bead can see the bent staples sticking out lol
 
It's rubbish but seems to be the norm now. Seeing some of the pictures on here in the last couple of years doesn't fill me with confidence you'll get any better!
Glancing light is a plasterers night mare but he should have taken that into account when doing the job.
Theres not much info about glancing light in this country but search on the internet and there's lots in australia, even about designing buildings to lessen the effect.
 
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It's rubbish but seems to be the norm now. Seeing some of the pictures on here in the last couple of years doesn't fill me with confidence you'll get any better!
Glancing light is a plasterers night mare but he should have taken that into account when doing the job.
Theres not much info about glancing light in this country but search on the internet and there's lots in australia, even about designing buildings to lessen the effect.
Thanks this is useful after a quick Google on glancing light. I can't change the sunlight but I can change the light bulb position.
 
Sunlight and direction was the first thing I looked at when entering a job and always took extra care with harsh light angles. Sometimes virtually impossible to avoid issues.
Try shining your torch across a pane of glass or car windscreen.
 
Sunlight and direction was the first thing I looked at when entering a job and always took extra care with harsh light angles. Sometimes virtually impossible to avoid issues.
Try shining your torch across a pane of glass or car windscreen.

Is this bad plastering?


A Real pro needs not to consider any light

Wakey wakey
 
Sh*t Claire that is bad...won't ask how much as it's obvious.

Something going on between you and @hector you seem on the same wavelength?

Anyway if it would be I'd get wand out...you could possibly hire one...like a flex sander or any obital sander and give it a f**king good sand back...if you are consistent you should get a nice flat and smooth surface for painting. Put your mist coat on and look out for an infection and fill and sand back...spot prime and continue.

Pay less, pay twice.
 
Maybe because he's never shone any light across it?


I've seen the earth at sunrise AND at sunset, and I'm convinced it's got ripples and blebs all over it. Definitely not flat!

stuck in the soul lure system spell. Tell lie vision SET programs have taken them and their entire experience.. It really is a life sentence


Wakey wakey
 
stuck in the soul lure system spell. Tell lie vision SET programs have taken them and their entire experience..

Didn't say earth is a sphere, tho did I?

The funny thing about your comment is that you probably got started on flat earth coz of something you saw online, not because your some great thinker.
 
Can’t be sure but the pimples look like they were caused by wall paper paste.

Was 1st thing that crossed my mind, but it seems at least some of it probly due to poor suction control, (because of the crazing Claire mentioned).



Claire, although the appearance could be DIY sorted with a LOT of effort (LOTS of filler and sanding), I wonder if the plaster is likely to flake off the wall, anyway where its blistered and crazed.

I'd refuse to pay and if too late for that, maybe consider calling trading standards.
 
Was 1st thing that crossed my mind, but it seems at least some of it probly due to poor suction control, (because of the crazing Claire mentioned).



Claire, although the appearance could be DIY sorted with a LOT of effort (LOTS of filler and sanding), I wonder if the plaster is likely to flake off the wall, anyway where its blistered and crazed.

I'd refuse to pay and if too late for that, maybe consider calling trading standards.
Yes, we'll try that and I'm considering small court and reporting too. I am more learned now in plastering (noy enough to give a good myself). My concern is also the longevity. I guess it's good enough for wallpaper, although paint was the goal.
 
Didn't say earth is a sphere, tho did I?

The funny thing about your comment is that you probably got started on flat earth coz of something you saw online, not because your some great thinker.




I never said it was a sphere



All land & water is measured flat /level in every instance


All observable demonstrable repeatable

Wakey wakey
 
You’re dead right about Kirk. Too many internet do gooders trying to teach chancers. This is the result.


Those are just utuber clowns -making plastering
a week or two to master ,would sell their soul .

They always end up stealing money from the subs ,ads -inc via raffles /via endorsing shite products .

Wakey wakey
 
He's easily confused.He's looking for the patio layers forum.
If you need one laying it'll cost a sack of spuds and probably be done on Sundays
Really early too, he'll knock you out of bed at 07:00 you'll notice he has softer skin than most tradesmen.
FYI he gets some bloke to jizz on both his and imaginary girl friend's faces, the protein good for the skin apparently.
 
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