Joint filler before skimming.

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4400kevin

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I am doing flats at the minute and subbed 2 out last week the other gang scrimed and blocked out the flat with joint filler before they skimmed they said they its a better job but what the advantage?
 
skim doesent shrink back so much when drying out ie less cracking less patching joint filler expencive way thow better off using dabbing compound wetter mix does same job alot cheaper
 
filling before skimming produces a better job less cracking less patching use 2 drive me nuts especally paper tapes on interals in winter freezing water end up with frost bite before skimming
 
2 coat easi-fill and i joint filler for easy sanding.... PROPER WAY

Proper way for who? That's not even the proper way to tape & joint it, let alone skim it. Why would you joint it before skimming? Been watching too many youtube videos I reckon.
Some people have some silly ******* ideas.
 
I was tought on boards to whizz round first (with skim) and fill the joints - to cover any dodgy boarding/broken edges and to stop any hollow spots coming through after the walls are trowelled up but it was litterally for good methods but a capable spread can lose the joints on a straight skim over no prob.

seen some gangs on price whizz round first let it pick up and then one coat skim, BG actually do recognise that method as far as I am aaware and I have seen it it on specs - one coat gypsum plaster to walls! Not in my house pal.

If the these guys are actually using joint filler they are wasting time and money IMO
 
Proper way for who? That's not even the proper way to tape & joint it, let alone skim it. Why would you joint it before skimming? Been watching too many youtube videos I reckon.
Some people have some silly ******* ideas.

stop spitting your dummy out ya muppet, im talking about taping and jointing not skimming, but yes u wouldn't do all that before skimming

guy i know for 30 years, 2 coats easifill amd 1 joint filler
 
spark tony is a tape and jointer mate thats all he does day in day out.

sh@t didnt know that, i never done it myself (tape and joint), stay well away from that subject..
but seriously i know a guy been doing it years and when he dry lines... he does a coat of easi fill sands, another coat sands then finally joint filler as its the finishing coat and easily sanded

on my course i seen the guy plasterboarding scriming it and then filling the joint with easyfill - sanding in till feathered
then painted... i seen the trainer teaching one of the guys there
 
sh@t didnt know that, i never done it myself (tape and joint), stay well away from that subject..
but seriously i know a guy been doing it years and when he dry lines... he does a coat of easi fill sands, another coat sands then finally joint filler as its the finishing coat and easily sanded

on my course i seen the guy plasterboarding scriming it and then filling the joint with easyfill - sanding in till feathered
then painted... i seen the trainer teaching one of the guys there

i've been jointing for over 20 years and will only 3 coat if using Boxes,otherwise i use curved trowels and two coat,even with filler and joint cement.
if you wanna make more work of it crack on mate.
Maybe it's best not to tell people how to do things if you've never done it yourself.
oh and read what it says on a bag of easi fill.
 
sorry i didnt read the post correctly, u wouldnt do filling of 3 coats before skimming

4 f+++ sacke 4 how much time u got 2 board & skim 4 bed 3 storey house on a price u ante got time 2 do 3 coats ov filler before skim u do wat contractor says fill tapes out before skim like i said at top ov page less cracking less patching thats all wat the **** wants f+++++g kids think they now every thing :RpS_lol:
 
4 f+++ sacke 4 how much time u got 2 board & skim 4 bed 3 storey house on a price u ante got time 2 do 3 coats ov filler before skim u do wat contractor says fill tapes out before skim like i said at top ov page less cracking less patching thats all wat the **** wants f+++++g kids think they now every thing :RpS_lol:

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Are you Carping resurrected, by any chance?
 
when im feeling keen i ofter lay a coat over teh scrim on a board ceiling! then lay my 2 coats over!
 
can do it that way in bettween sets 2 save time on a price if ur going 2 be on it in hour or so cant leave it 2 go bone dry or it shells off with a heavy handed painter on a roller
 
4 f+++ sacke 4 how much time u got 2 board & skim 4 bed 3 storey house on a price u ante got time 2 do 3 coats ov filler before skim u do wat contractor says fill tapes out before skim like i said at top ov page less cracking less patching thats all wat the **** wants f+++++g kids think they now every thing :RpS_lol:

ok mate, we got the message, i already have been caned for speaking out of turn by the others,
stop jumping on the badwagon u cowboy...i'll stick to the plastering then and leave the tape and jointing
alone if it pleases you.....

now ssshhhhhhh now ok!!! good man
 
ok mate, we got the message, i already have been caned for speaking out of turn by the others,
stop jumping on the badwagon u cowboy...i'll stick to the plastering then and leave the tape and jointing
alone if it pleases you.....

now ssshhhhhhh now ok!!! good man
ye ha gidde up still mates :RpS_thumbsup:
 
I always thought that easi fill went on last...

My tape and jointing experience is very small but just a question. On site dont they use something called "fast set" first? then easi fill over the top?

But if the wrong boards have been used when you the area is to be skimmed ie... tapered edge board I whip round the joints first then drop back and 2 coat :-) no plastic trowel no sponges just straight forward skimming :-)
 
I always thought that easi fill went on last...

My tape and jointing experience is very small but just a question. On site dont they use something called "fast set" first? then easi fill over the top?

But if the wrong boards have been used when you the area is to be skimmed ie... tapered edge board I whip round the joints first then drop back and 2 coat :-) no plastic trowel no sponges just straight forward skimming :-)

you're kinda right.
The 'proper' way is either one coat of joint filler then two joint cement or just two easi-fill.
using two coats of easi-fill then joint cement would just be a waste of money,let alone drying time.
some may use two filler one joint cement.
i do wonder what Sparks or his mate know of the 'proper' way,maybe his mte never has to pay for materials,also sounds like his either read a book or done a course if he sands in between coats,you won't earn on a price like that!
 
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