Machine for ready mixed plaster and paint spraying

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I need a machine to spray Knauf airless and masonry paints e.g Weathershield & Sandtex. Primers e.g Parex Micro. And Internal emulsion.

Can someone advise me?
 
Graco airless is what you need but @Curry is your man for advice they aint cheap mind. there was a post last week naming types of airless sprayers
 
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I was looking at the Graco Mark V Pro contactor Airless, will any of these pumps spray bucket coat or Thistle spray/MP finish?​
 
i dont think they will spray thistle spray finish. the airless products are very fine and air drying.. your ritmo will spray plasters. you can mix the gear and pour it in or by using a slower rotor stator it will mix and pump it. you can use products with grit through the ritmo as well. you will need larger compressor and different spraying guns for the different products
 
AdcarPlastering said:
I need a machine to spray Knauf airless and masonry paints e.g Weathershield & Sandtex. Primers e.g Parex Micro. And Internal emulsion.

Can someone advise me?
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Hi Mate,

The EZE 87 will be available in 110v hopefully at the end of the week. It will do all of what you need including Finish.

Please let me know if you want more information and I will give you a call

Ryan
 
New 20amp Mark V for airless plaster and ritmo for anything else.

Once you spray with a airless you won't want to do anything else
 
I need it for domestic work, so will need 240V...where did you buy yours from?
@Curry Appreciate if you could answer these questions

- What is the materials cost of airless plaster in comparison to Multi. Basically is it going to cost me more in materials to use airless plaster?

- How long does it take to complete a 2 coat set? quicker than multi?

- Do you wet trowel the airless plaster to finish it?

- Does it require sanding after troweling?

- Is airless plaster suitable for re skims? I'm mainly thinking about ceilings/walls where you have to go on a bit thicker...can the airless plaster go on thick if need be? Looks like you spray it very tight.

Thanks!!
 
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Aaran regards airless plaster. Its like artex or joint filler. Have you ever used artex to caulk a ceiling flat ? You have to have a flat background for the final coat. So you must prep it all. The better the prep the less work for the topcoat.
Imagine spraying joint filler on a wall. You cant one coat when tape and jointing it will shrink and crack if too thick
Think of the first coat doing all the filling then u wait for that to set. Then the second coat goes on and left to dry then the third which trowels on so tight if leaves it almost finished. Then you sand.
The ritmo powercoat was developed for this system application in germany. They use a pre bagged product that is cheaper over there but costs a fortune over here. Artex is a white surface finish that is advertised as not requiring paint same as airless.
In usa they use same gear for texturing drywall.
I could be good in refurbs etc
 
TonyM said:
What you running the 20amp airless off, a Transformer plugged into a 13 amp socket?
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Our machine are 16 amp but if I was to buy a new machine it would be a the new graco mark V. It's switchable between 16 and 20 amps.

Would run of a tranny like are 32 amp dust extractor I would hope.
 
PFTwales said:
Aaran regards airless plaster. Its like artex or joint filler. Have you ever used artex to caulk a ceiling flat ? You have to have a flat background for the final coat. So you must prep it all. The better the prep the less work for the topcoat.
Imagine spraying joint filler on a wall. You cant one coat when tape and jointing it will shrink and crack if too thick
Think of the first coat doing all the filling then u wait for that to set. Then the second coat goes on and left to dry then the third which trowels on so tight if leaves it almost finished. Then you sand.
The ritmo powercoat was developed for this system application in germany. They use a pre bagged product that is cheaper over there but costs a fortune over here. Artex is a white surface finish that is advertised as not requiring paint same as airless.
In usa they use same gear for texturing drywall.
I could be good in refurbs etc
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From what your saying Ian it sounds like ready mix e.g knauf airless is not suitable for refurbs, which was my concern, looks like it might be a good product for going over perfect boarding...but realistically any quicker & cheaper than spraying thistle or mp?
 
I doubt it would be any good on refurb work going off the job I'm in today it would cost a fortune just to sort one of the walls out. It sounds like tape and joint but on a bigger scale and I never rated that system especially when say a ceiling or a wall can't be done it's a 2 day process just to finish.
 
It will have its place in a refurb. If for instance a painter wanted to do the skimming or a builder had some half decent labourers on the books
 
PFTwales said:
It will have its place in a refurb. If for instance a painter wanted to do the skimming or a builder had some half decent labourers on the books
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From what I can see from the vids the walls need to be pretty spot on in the first place and that rarely happens on reskims or you wouldn't be there. I've seen a painter a while back spraying flats out and flying through them boasting he had done four then when I found out what he was gettin a flat I couldnt stop laughing, daft **** bringing the rates down.
 
Also what's it like compared to finish as in is it easily marked if knocked that was the other problem I noticed with tape and jointing
 
Minimum skill needed lets be honest. Nothing you put on cant be repaired by sanding or filler.
Isnt that why these systems are introduced because there is a shortage of tradesmen etc

Its tough enough just like a persimon house. Most people dont go round punching walls. I got 3 kids down here and all thats wrong with my taping after six years is its covered in pen
 
By the time you have put 10 coats of the white stuff on the walls sanded back etc you might as will dubbed out quickly with a boat of bonding and skimmed it.

I've got a mate who is a decorator I've seen him do patches with easyfill it takes forever if its over a couple of mm it shrinks and you have to go over and over and over it! lol

What we need on domestics is a lightweight, quiet machine that can spray m finish like they do airless paint spray, without loads of overspray.
 
flynnyman said:
From what I can see from the vids the walls need to be pretty spot on in the first place and that rarely happens on reskims or you wouldn't be there. I've seen a painter a while back spraying flats out and flying through them boasting he had done four then when I found out what he was gettin a flat I couldnt stop laughing, daft **** bringing the rates down.
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Don't get me started!!
 
flynnyman said:
From what I can see from the vids the walls need to be pretty spot on in the first place and that rarely happens on reskims or you wouldn't be there. I've seen a painter a while back spraying flats out and flying through them boasting he had done four then when I found out what he was gettin a flat I couldnt stop laughing, daft **** bringing the rates down.
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Bet he wasn't flying through when he was masking em up & then de masking aswell lol.
 
Nisus said:
Bet he wasn't flying through when he was masking em up & then de masking aswell lol.
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To be fair he was only white washing them and the noice of the machine would drive you mad. If you can't get it right with a trowel I still think you would struggle to get it perfect just spraying it then Sanding, to me it's just another thing they are trying to fix that isnt broken
 
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Airless spray are not for domestic, plaster or paint. Only economical for fixture /fittingless/flooringless sites with m2 to blast out. Wood finishes are carried out after walls ceilings etc always, so I would forget about doing 1st then masking. Interior spray plaster finishes apart from alltek im yet to be convinced about as worthwhile.


Exterior airless paint I'd be careful with the overspray carrying, I sprayed over 100 ltrs on a film set last year in about 1 hr 15(try that with a roller), with about 5% ending up in the air & on the floor(or carpet) and in the lungs of anyone who stood and watched. Use smooth sandtex (trade) always, the textured stuff leaves a poor finish & im not sure what it is supposed to replicate.
Hawk and trowel for domestic work, I've looked but can't find a better option than multi over old lime plaster as of yet
 
perlite said:
Airless spray are not for domestic, plaster or paint. Only economical for fixture /fittingless/flooringless sites with m2 to blast out. Wood finishes are carried out after walls ceilings etc always, so I would forget about doing 1st then masking. Interior spray plaster finishes apart from alltek im yet to be convinced about as worthwhile.


Exterior airless paint I'd be careful with the overspray carrying, I sprayed over 100 ltrs on a film set last year in about 1 hr 15(try that with a roller), with about 5% ending up in the air & on the floor(or carpet) and in the lungs of anyone who stood and watched. Use smooth sandtex (trade) always, the textured stuff leaves a poor finish & im not sure what it is supposed to replicate.
Hawk and trowel for domestic work, I've looked but can't find a better option than multi over old lime plaster as of yet
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At last an honest answer
 
perlite said:
Airless spray are not for domestic, plaster or paint. Only economical for fixture /fittingless/flooringless sites with m2 to blast out. Wood finishes are carried out after walls ceilings etc always, so I would forget about doing 1st then masking. Interior spray plaster finishes apart from alltek im yet to be convinced about as worthwhile.


Exterior airless paint I'd be careful with the overspray carrying, I sprayed over 100 ltrs on a film set last year in about 1 hr 15(try that with a roller), with about 5% ending up in the air & on the floor(or carpet) and in the lungs of anyone who stood and watched. Use smooth sandtex (trade) always, the textured stuff leaves a poor finish & im not sure what it is supposed to replicate.
Hawk and trowel for domestic work, I've looked but can't find a better option than multi over old lime plaster as of yet
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I've heard of blokes spraying masonry paint on outside walls, then the cars round the other side of the building & up the rd getting bladdered in small spots lol. :RpS_lol:

Anyway back to plastering :rolleyes)
 
Nisus said:
I've heard of blokes spraying masonry paint on outside walls, then the cars round the other side of the building & up the rd getting bladdered in small spots lol. :RpS_lol:

Anyway back to plastering :rolleyes)
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Bet they still said it was nothing to do with them :-)
 
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