materials (supply price ).

[dave w]

always done subbing work but now pricing work for small builders, anyone give me any idea how much it works out at per m2 to supply for board & skim. ( materials only ). THANKS

 

[richardbrown]

£3

 

[beddy]

i'm going to take a stab in the dark and say it depends how much your getting your mats for.

 

[church]

get an account at a builders merchants overwise they will rob you blind .

 

[Removed_101]

get the builder to buy the materials,i never buy materials when i work for builders,imagine if they didn't pay

 

[pwi]

Mats is where I make my money 15 per on everything I buy you can't be doing them at trade or your buisiness would be running at loss

 

[richardbrown]

supply the materials and make money on them !

 

[Pug]

I add 10-20% on mats

 

[plasterjfe]

I add 10-20% on mats

20% is a huge mark up in this game, fair play lad.
I try to supply at no more than 10% but i will be honest for the last year I am supplying at cost to stay competetive

 

[lewisricekrispy]

Plasterboard £1.75 per m. Finish 50p per m, screws 15p per m. Srim? £3.00 per m seems fair. Depends on quantities, if small amount you'll need to add more on, or you're using your own time and not making money.

 

[warriorupnorth]

May i make a suggestion here regarding showing your pricing structure on an open forum "DONT DO IT" if you want to get a rough idea then pm some one , don't let's be broadcasting this type of info on the open forum , are you all mad ?.... Mr dave w it's not very difficult to work out if you know the prices of your mats, plus don't forget your 75% commission on supply

 

[Pug]

i have no problem showing my mark up, it takes me an hour out of my day to go to the merchants, fuel, coffee and a burger and the stress of having to deal with the numpty on the till. 10-20% is nothing! ;D

 

[warriorupnorth]

I thinketh you miss my pointethh pugster , 75% is the norm any how :

 

[Freerider]

Ive never understood why anyone would make a mark up on materials..

1 - why bother charging more for materials to make more money when the easier option is just charge more per day if you want to earn more.

2 - if you want a bit extra on top of a job incase you under quoted on materials then just add 10% on top, or do what I do, if its 3 bags of finish I need, Ill charge for 4 etc/ etc/

your prob all shoot me down "its a faaacking business mate, run it like one" but at the end of the day it really doesnt make any sense what so ever putting a mark up if the only reason is, is to earn more dough.

 

[lewisricekrispy]

Isn't getting 3 bags and charging for a 4 the same thing

 

[Freerider]

Yes, but its not as specific as "25p a metre this, £1 a metre that"

"30bags of finish, so Ill get an extra 5" is much simpler, or like I said, just charge an extra 10% to be safe, load of b*ll***s all this specific s**t!

 

[warriorupnorth]

Yes, but its not as specific as "25p a metre this, £1 a metre that"

"30bags of finish, so Ill get an extra 5" is much simpler, or like I said, just charge an extra 10% to be safe, load of b*ll***s all this specific (german word)!

But why buy extra materials if you don't kneed em , just put in a provision for em which is you mark up on mats , and when you put your quote in you put your labour price then mats, so it don't look like your ripping em off on labour, a lot off it is just psychological bullshit (in the domestic market) customers hate the thought that your earning say 200 a day , but when you reduce this and compensate by inflating mats costs they don't seem as bothered, as i said i hate discussing prices and structures on an open forum , you know how much you wanna earn a week so quote accordingly, it's not my place to tell you or any one how to price your jobs , that should be up to you as a businessman

 

[martinemj]

totally agree with the above......

 

[plasterjfe]

i have no problem showing my mark up, it takes me an hour out of my day to go to the merchants, fuel, coffee and a burger and the stress of having to deal with the numpty on the till. 10-20% is nothing! ;D

if you price a bill up and the job is worth 50K in mats then 20% is 10K beleive me that is alot and will price you out of the contract

 

[warriorupnorth]

if you price a bill up and the job is worth 50K in mats then 20% is 10K beleive me that is alot and will price you out of the contract
[/quote]

i think we are on about the domestic market J an small builders, beer money jobs

 

[lewisricekrispy]

I normaly use wickes as a cost price, but shop around and find cheaper which I use. allow 10% for waste. Add on 10% ontop. If there's a big difference in to diferent suppliers then sometimes pass certain amount onto customer, who should like the fact that they will get it cheaper. Besides, time is money, so should earn out of it for having to source it then pick it up and drop at job. Or they could get it deliverd for £40 from wickes

 

[Freerider]

Yes, but its not as specific as "25p a metre this, £1 a metre that"

"30bags of finish, so Ill get an extra 5" is much simpler, or like I said, just charge an extra 10% to be safe, load of b*ll***s all this specific (german word)!

But why buy extra materials if you don't kneed em , just put in a provision for em which is you mark up on mats , and when you put your quote in you put your labour price then mats, so it don't look like your ripping em off on labour, a lot off it is just psychological bull(german word) (in the domestic market) customers hate the thought that your earning say 200 a day , but when you reduce this and compensate by inflating mats costs they don't seem as bothered, as i said i hate discussing prices and structures on an open forum , you know how much you wanna earn a week so quote accordingly, it's not my place to tell you or any one how to price your jobs , that should be up to you as a businessman

Agree with what you said, your right it is all phsycological bull! When I say I would buy more mats I dont mean that, I charge for more mats, so I guess it is in the same way a mark up, just done differently! (mine is more of a case of just so I dont under quote on materials, id rather charge for more than enough)

 

[warriorupnorth]

Yes, but its not as specific as "25p a metre this, £1 a metre that"

"30bags of finish, so Ill get an extra 5" is much simpler, or like I said, just charge an extra 10% to be safe, load of b*ll***s all this specific (german word)!

But why buy extra materials if you don't kneed em , just put in a provision for em which is you mark up on mats , and when you put your quote in you put your labour price then mats, so it don't look like your ripping em off on labour, a lot off it is just psychological bull(german word) (in the domestic market) customers hate the thought that your earning say 200 a day , but when you reduce this and compensate by inflating mats costs they don't seem as bothered, as i said i hate discussing prices and structures on an open forum , you know how much you wanna earn a week so quote accordingly, it's not my place to tell you or any one how to price your jobs , that should be up to you as a businessman

Agree with what you said, your right it is all phsycological bull! When I say I would buy more mats I dont mean that, I charge for more mats, so I guess it is in the same way a mark up, just done differently! (mine is more of a case of just so I dont under quote on materials, id rather charge for more than enough)

Oh!! right think were wll pretty much doing the same thing on domestics, but like J said you can't do this on commercial projects , although i would like to ;D

 

[plasterjfe]

if you price a bill up and the job is worth 50K in mats then 20% is 10K beleive me that is alot and will price you out of the contract

i think we are on about the domestic market J an small builders, beer money jobs
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I know paul i thought i would just throw some fuel on the debate rather than just agree with your point about missing the point.
on a job with 10 board and 5 bags I couldn be ar5ed to even waste time calcin up the pints worth of material prof. just get in out money in back pocket on with the next one

 

[warriorupnorth]

if you price a bill up and the job is worth 50K in mats then 20% is 10K beleive me that is alot and will price you out of the contract

i think we are on about the domestic market J an small builders, beer money jobs

I know paul i thought i would just throw some fuel on the debate rather than just agree with your point about missing the point.
on a job with 10 board and 5 bags I couldn be ar5ed to even waste time calcin up the pints worth of material prof. just get in out money in back pocket on with the next one
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I know :

 

[spunky]

theres 10% for waste or are people cutting back on this too ;D

 

[gps]

Ive never understood why anyone would make a mark up on materials..

1 - why bother charging more for materials to make more money when the easier option is just charge more per day if you want to earn more.

2 - if you want a bit extra on top of a job incase you under quoted on materials then just add 10% on top, or do what I do, if its 3 bags of finish I need, Ill charge for 4 etc/ etc/

your prob all shoot me down "its a faaacking business mate, run it like one" but at the end of the day it really doesnt make any sense what so ever putting a mark up if the only reason is, is to earn more dough.

This is one of the best replies i have read on here for a while.

 

[warriorupnorth]

Ive never understood why anyone would make a mark up on materials..

1 - why bother charging more for materials to make more money when the easier option is just charge more per day if you want to earn more.

2 - if you want a bit extra on top of a job incase you under quoted on materials then just add 10% on top, or do what I do, if its 3 bags of finish I need, Ill charge for 4 etc/ etc/

your prob all shoot me down "its a faaacking business mate, run it like one" but at the end of the day it really doesnt make any sense what so ever putting a mark up if the only reason is, is to earn more dough.

This is one of the best replies i have read on here for a while.

Why ?

 

[spunky]

surely on a large job its alot easier too add a percentage rather than go through all the different materials work out what extra you need and add it on top ???

 

[kebab king]

Just make a profit where possible , end of.

 

[gps]

Ive never understood why anyone would make a mark up on materials..

1 - why bother charging more for materials to make more money when the easier option is just charge more per day if you want to earn more.

2 - if you want a bit extra on top of a job incase you under quoted on materials then just add 10% on top, or do what I do, if its 3 bags of finish I need, Ill charge for 4 etc/ etc/

your prob all shoot me down "its a faaacking business mate, run it like one" but at the end of the day it really doesnt make any sense what so ever putting a mark up if the only reason is, is to earn more dough.

This is one of the best replies i have read on here for a while.

Why ?

Well unlike alot of posts it answers the question, its to the point its informative and the main point which gets overlooked alot of the time which drives me mad is, that its a business so treat it like one.

 

[Freerider]

surely on a large job its alot easier too add a percentage rather than go through all the different materials work out what extra you need and add it on top ???

exactly!

 

[kebab king]

So what if you add 10% for mats, and it turns out to be 15% you need,You have to work out the cost of your mats, especially on a bigger job.Its easy to say you need 3 bags of multi for that job, its a small job, not likley to go to wrong.What happens if under estimate by a pallet full of Multi.

 

[warriorupnorth]

Ive never understood why anyone would make a mark up on materials..

1 - why bother charging more for materials to make more money when the easier option is just charge more per day if you want to earn more.

2 - if you want a bit extra on top of a job incase you under quoted on materials then just add 10% on top, or do what I do, if its 3 bags of finish I need, Ill charge for 4 etc/ etc/

your prob all shoot me down "its a faaacking business mate, run it like one" but at the end of the day it really doesnt make any sense what so ever putting a mark up if the only reason is, is to earn more dough.

This is one of the best replies i have read on here for a while.

Why ?

Well unlike alot of posts it answers the question, its to the point its informative and the main point which gets overlooked alot of the time which drives me mad is, that its a business so treat it like one.

You been drinking or just not read all the thread ??

 

[gps]

Ive never understood why anyone would make a mark up on materials..

1 - why bother charging more for materials to make more money when the easier option is just charge more per day if you want to earn more.

2 - if you want a bit extra on top of a job incase you under quoted on materials then just add 10% on top, or do what I do, if its 3 bags of finish I need, Ill charge for 4 etc/ etc/

your prob all shoot me down "its a faaacking business mate, run it like one" but at the end of the day it really doesnt make any sense what so ever putting a mark up if the only reason is, is to earn more dough.

This is one of the best replies i have read on here for a while.

Why ?

Well unlike alot of posts it answers the question, its to the point its informative and the main point which gets overlooked alot of the time which drives me mad is, that its a business so treat it like one.

You been drinking or just not read all the thread ??

I wish I had been drinking I was genralising on all threads and posts not just this one.