newbie needing advice.......

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19lottie82

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Hello, my name is Charlotte, and I am currently studying for a City and Guilds in plastering, which I started just over 2 months ago, so I'm definitely a newbie!

I have been asked to do a small skimming job in an ice cream parlour which will be opening shortly.

I have attached a pic of a sort of feature wall / divider (if that's what you'd call it?), which I've been asked to skim front and back, including sides, and the inside of the circular cut outs. It will just be a standard sized sheet of gyproc.

This is the first job I've done (outside of college) apart from a few basic domestic simple skimming jobs so I want to get it right, and as neat as possible.

Normally I could ask my lecturer in college, but as it's the Easter break I'm a bit stuck, so any advice would be very welcome. I guess my main questions would be....

1) beading...... looking online i see you can get beading tape from B&Q and the like, would this be suitable to cover all edges of the gyproc sheet? We haven't been shown how to use the tape in college (they prefer to teach us using old school methods ha!), but it looks simple enough. If so can anyone recommend a specific brand that is easily available?

2) the inside of the circles...... they will be pre cut for me, will a simple coat of PVA mix be enough to prep the area before i apply the multi finish? I'm guessing so, but just want to be 100% sure.

Will applying to plaster to a small and angled surface be tricky? I have a small marshaltown trowel, do you reckon this will do the job, or is there anything that would make it easier for me? I'm guessing eveen my small trowel will be too large for the smaller hole? If i can dab it on, what would be my best bet to use to smooth it out?

In terms of a neat finish, I have another wall to skim also, so was planning on doing that first, and using a small bit of that plaster to do the inside of the circles and the sides of the sheet, then coming back to it to skim the front and back once those bits have dried....


Sorry if this all seems really basic, I just want to make sure I don't make any school boy errors here, as it's the first bit of plastering I'm actually being paid to do!


Thanks in advance

19lottie82
 
might help if i included the photo!
 

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If your asking this many questions I don't think your ready to tackle a job with circles ect it takes ages to be able to do something like that I admire you going for it though but if you dog it your gonna get nothing but a bad name if you do want to go for it I would take your time but I would suspect your only being given the job because you are doing it cheap,get experience yeah but not on something like that,this is only my advice and from what I know from past experiences and we have all thought we knew it all only to come unstuck,sorry to be bearer of bad news but it's just the reality
 
Staple arch beads around the circles on both sides of the circles. 3mm angle beads in the corners and just skim as usual. The curves are actually quite easy to do, just make sure and keep your trowel at the same angle as you follow the curve.
 
Any trowel will do Lottie, so as ordinary beads, you can get arch beads at any builders merchant for the opening. Pva and skim

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Lads do u think she's ready for this? Arch beads etc and skimming bits like that as pagey said..arch beads are shite to use as it is this could fininsh her b4 she's started in confidence..shes been doing it 2 months..id pass this Job on charlate as u ain't ready I'm afraid its sumbodys shop lol..but pay peanuts and all.....
 
Are you in yourself confident enough to do this?

If you are you will be able to do it as long as you spend enough time making sure those arch beads are set up perfect.

As for troweling the insides up id let the plaster pull in a little more than usual before you mess about with it to much, that way you can find the right angle to use your trowel on them without dragging to much gear off.

When I was first learning I was asked to do a few difficult jobs and I turned them down explaining that I didn't feel confident enough to do them, the customer will always respect you for this. If that does happen ask to pop down when the plasterer is doing the job so you can see properly how to do it.
 
Just use a plastic flexi bead....you'll be fine....the wings of them have a tendancy to stick out so make sure you use plenty of staples/clout nails and make sure non are raised higher than depth of the bead edge.
 
Kitchy said:
Lads do u think she's ready for this? Arch beads etc and skimming bits like that as pagey said..arch beads are shite to use as it is this could fininsh her b4 she's started in confidence..shes been doing it 2 months..id pass this Job on charlate as u ain't ready I'm afraid its sumbodys shop lol..but pay peanuts and all.....
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Mate I didn't wanna sound harsh cos I like the keen ones it's just I know reality I been there
 
roryston said:
Are you in yourself confident enough to do this?

If you are you will be able to do it as long as you spend enough time making sure those arch beads are set up perfect.

As for troweling the insides up id let the plaster pull in a little more than usual before you mess about with it to much, that way you can find the right angle to use your trowel on them without dragging to much gear off.

When I was first learning I was asked to do a few difficult jobs and I turned them down explaining that I didn't feel confident enough to do them, the customer will always respect you for this. If that does happen ask to pop down when the plasterer is doing the job so you can see properly how to do it.
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I admire the courage to wanna take it on I been there myself thought I knew everything and learnt hard way is doing a job cheap worth the ag that comes with it they your mates til it goes wrong
 
Kitchy said:
I cnt believe people are encouraging..shes been doing it 2 months and your trying to explain to her how to use arch beads and over skim circles
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Yes, but she sounds keen, if she mess it up I'm sure they can get someone in to rectify it, she may as well stick around pick up some pointers. That's what you need from today's youth being keen and motivated, it's a rarity these days.

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zolco said:
Yes, but she sounds keen, if she mess it up I'm sure they can get someone in to rectify it, she may as well stick around pick up some pointers. That's what you need from today's youth being keen and motivated, it's a rarity these days.

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Totally agree zolco I'm not knocking her at all being keen is best trait to have but this isn't about her being keen..keen or not I'm pretty sure this is out of her reach at this stage she's been doing it 2 months..she wont be able to do this Job on her own after 2 months..i know lads who have been doing it years and I wudnt trust them with this job with sounds of it..it sounds like a attention to detail job which requires a skill set its not skimming a 10m2 wall with no angles or beading
 
Forget the work lottie show us yer tits.
Sorry, sorry out of order I know. Just one Tit then.
Sorry, can't help it :inocente:
 
I agree with kitchy it's ok them saying do it but if goes wrong the calls will be endless and that's not nice we all been caught out at some point so just giving my opinion that probably best too swerve this one after 2 months being in game take the flat walls on yeah but something like this I think take more knowledge and skill and that don't come after 2 months
 
Kitchy said:
Totally agree zolco I'm not knocking her at all being keen is best trait to have but this isn't about her being keen..keen or not I'm pretty sure this is out of her reach at this stage she's been doing it 2 months..she wont be able to do this Job on her own after 2 months..i know lads who have been doing it years and I wudnt trust them with this job with sounds of it..it sounds like a attention to detail job which requires a skill set its not skimming a 10m2 wall with no angles or beading
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Watch that blood pressure Kitchy!.
 
For every person that comes on here saying they're going to have a go, 1000's more are doing it elsewhere anyway so what difference will one more make. No matter what advice you give they're going to do it anyway. Discouragement makes people more inclined to give it a go to prove you all wrong.
 
Rossi46 said:
For every person that comes on here saying they're going to have a go, 1000's more are doing it elsewhere anyway so what difference will one more make. No matter what advice you give they're going to do it anyway. Discouragement makes people more inclined to give it a go to prove you all wrong.
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Tbh its prob a fake Sunday nite I'm bored shitless account set up anyhow...laugh If she did slam her melons on tho
 
Thanks a lot for the advice so far (appreciate you all not ripping me to pieces!), most appreciated.

The guy knows I'm a student, so I'm only charging him a nominal amount on that understanding. I'm doing some bog standard walls, so this bit is only a small part of the job.

I reckon I'll be happy enough giving it a go with the flex bead. My only concern is the thickness (or lack of) of the board. As a sheet of Gyproc, it won't be thick enough for me to lay x2 of the inside of the bead on the internal curve (or even X1?)

As it's such a narrow board, would attempting it without a bead,then giving it a good sand down, not be an option? Or is that just a recipe for disaster?

PS my tits aren't anything special. Really not worth working yourself into a tizzy over!
 
@19lottie82 if it's just the thickness of a sheet of plasterboard I'd forget the beads or trying to plaster inside of arch. Just plaster board and taper it off around the circle then it can just get rubbed down and a coat of paint.
 
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