Opinions needed - Does my plaster need to go?

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chameleon001

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Hi,

Looking for some help! I am starting the refurb of my dining room, house is 1950's semi, internal walls single course brick, externals 2 course brick with cavity. Plaster is your standard solid (? float and set, then skimmed).

Having removed the paper and skirting, some of the plaster comes away very easily in sheets as if not bonded to the wall at all. It also has lots of hairline cracks throughout.

Have attached pics/ videos. Any thoughts on what I should do? Is this patchable or should I bite the bullet and remove it all (wouldn't take much effort as will fall off!) Advice on what I would need to meet building regs with insulation reqs if all needed removing would be most appreciated. I had the plaster knocked off in my other rooms and then dot/ dabbed and am really not a fan of it, feels hollow/ rubbish to fix to, and as my floor is suspended timber don't want an air gap behind plaster for cold air to get in.







Thanks,

Dan
 
If you go round doing that the lot will come off, if it's not hollow I wouldn't knock off. Patch up with sand and cement, pregrit and skim.
 
If you go round doing that the lot will come off, if it's not hollow I wouldn't knock off. Patch up with sand and cement, pregrit and skim.
 
If you go round doing that the lot will come off, if it's not hollow I wouldn't knock off. Patch up with sand and cement, pregrit and skim.
 
Hi,

Thanks, the video was kind of at the end when I was getting back to more solid stuff, the rest came off by hand. Areas do sound very 'hollow' when knocking on the walls, others don't.

Thanks,

Dan
 
chameleon001 said:
Advice on what I would need to meet building regs with insulation reqs if all needed removing would be most appreciated.
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If you take it all off of the external walls and want to meet building regs you won't be able to float and set or board and skim. If you remove more than 25% of the wall covering you have to bring the whole wall up to current insulation requirements.

You'd need to get the spec calculated, but from experience I'd say 60mm insulated board would be sufficient with an uninsulated cavity wall.
 
imago said:
If you take it all off of the external walls and want to meet building regs you won't be able to float and set or board and skim. If you remove more than 25% of the wall covering you have to bring the whole wall up to current insulation requirements.

You'd need to get the spec calculated, but from experience I'd say 60mm insulated board would be sufficient with an uninsulated cavity wall.
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Bore off lol
 
Topspread16 said:
Hungry fella? Or did you pull it off with your fingernails?


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first time ive ever seen canabalistic hands....i bet he eat his wife years ago.
look how skinny them mitts are with a lord of the ring since they were 16.

i think someone is buried behind that wall.....and guilt has kicked in.

confess chameleon....this is FBI algeeman
 
imago said:
If you take it all off of the external walls and want to meet building regs you won't be able to float and set or board and skim. If you remove more than 25% of the wall covering you have to bring the whole wall up to current insulation requirements.

You'd need to get the spec calculated, but from experience I'd say 60mm insulated board would be sufficient with an uninsulated cavity wall.
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Is that percentage not based on the whole house not just a wall?
 
Just checked on building control and it depends on the type of development but can be 25% of the envelope of the building which includes floors, windows and other stuff.
 
algeeman said:
first time ive ever seen canabalistic hands....i bet he eat his wife years ago.
look how skinny them mitts are with a lord of the ring since they were 16.

i think someone is buried behind that wall.....and guilt has kicked in.

confess chameleon....this is FBI algeeman
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[emoji23][emoji23] wouldn’t like a poke in the eye off one of them tampons.


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Opinions needed - Does my plaster need to go?
Topspread16 said:
[emoji23][emoji23] wouldn’t like a poke in the eye off one of them tampons.


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i cant work out if hes crawling on the floor for food or up the walls for drugs !!
 
imago said:
If you take it all off of the external walls and want to meet building regs you won't be able to float and set or board and skim. If you remove more than 25% of the wall covering you have to bring the whole wall up to current insulation requirements.

You'd need to get the spec calculated, but from experience I'd say 60mm insulated board would be sufficient with an uninsulated cavity wall.
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Back in the real world nobody gives a flying f**k!
 
Take it all off. Wash brick. Get it sand and cemented and skimmed. Don't tell the council lol. Job finished.
 
flynnyman said:
Just checked on building control and it depends on the type of development but can be 25% of the envelope of the building which includes floors, windows and other stuff.
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Which is one of the problems with the building regs. They're often open to interpretation, so the inspector on the day may have an opinion that's different to the bloke doing the work.

The only saving grace is that they're not retrospective. So in most cases it comes down to what's been removed and what will be done to replace it. If you remove more than 25% of the covering on an external wall and involve BC nine times out of ten they will expect you to bring that wall up to spec. Obviously in the majority of cases BC won't be involved in replastering jobs, but solicitors are demanding BC sign off for works done prior to sale.

A customer from some while back rang me the other day as they were selling their house and the solicitor pinged them for a FENSA cert for the UPVC windows. They had BC sign off for the extension we built, but not the windows that had been fitted a few years before. There's nothing I could do anymore than they could, so now they're looking at either having to pay for them to be certified, or discount the sale price by the value of replacement windows which everyone knows won't be replaced by the new owners they'll just trouser the money.
 
imago said:
Which is one of the problems with the building regs. They're often open to interpretation, so the inspector on the day may have an opinion that's different to the bloke doing the work.

The only saving grace is that they're not retrospective. So in most cases it comes down to what's been removed and what will be done to replace it. If you remove more than 25% of the covering on an external wall and involve BC nine times out of ten they will expect you to bring that wall up to spec. Obviously in the majority of cases BC won't be involved in replastering jobs, but solicitors are demanding BC sign off for works done prior to sale.

A customer from some while back rang me the other day as they were selling their house and the solicitor pinged them for a FENSA cert for the UPVC windows. They had BC sign off for the extension we built, but not the windows that had been fitted a few years before. There's nothing I could do anymore than they could, so now they're looking at either having to pay for them to be certified, or discount the sale price by the value of replacement windows which everyone knows won't be replaced by the new owners they'll just trouser the money.
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They can pay an indemnity for the windows through their solicitors. It' about 20-30 quid. This way they don' have to get a dense cert and they don't need to change the agreed price of sale
 
RobJack said:
They can pay an indemnity for the windows through their solicitors. It' about 20-30 quid. This way they don' have to get a dense cert and they don't need to change the agreed price of sale
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Useful to know, but I'm keeping out of it. All the I's are dotted and T's crossed with my stuff. (y)
 
imago said:
Which is one of the problems with the building regs. They're often open to interpretation, so the inspector on the day may have an opinion that's different to the bloke doing the work.

The only saving grace is that they're not retrospective. So in most cases it comes down to what's been removed and what will be done to replace it. If you remove more than 25% of the covering on an external wall and involve BC nine times out of ten they will expect you to bring that wall up to spec. Obviously in the majority of cases BC won't be involved in replastering jobs, but solicitors are demanding BC sign off for works done prior to sale.

A customer from some while back rang me the other day as they were selling their house and the solicitor pinged them for a FENSA cert for the UPVC windows. They had BC sign off for the extension we built, but not the windows that had been fitted a few years before. There's nothing I could do anymore than they could, so now they're looking at either having to pay for them to be certified, or discount the sale price by the value of replacement windows which everyone knows won't be replaced by the new owners they'll just trouser the money.
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Yep know what you mean, a customer text me this week and asked was I putting a WP in the render of a small extension coz the BI asked lol I said it's f**k all to do with him but yes :) he has missed so much on this extension but I'm not getting involved unless he starts being a smart arse ;)
 
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