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jamesthefirst

jamesthefirst

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With boards classed as hazerdous waste do you think a new type of board will be invented. If an 8x4 was the same weight as one piece of coving and so strong that you didn’t have to cut them on the half joist. No waste. :)
 
I had a meeting with a BG rep about ten years ago and he said that they (BG) were going to try and push for float and set to become the norm again, to cut down on waste. I told him that there wasn't a hope in hell of that happening as there wouldn't be enough tradesmen with the right skillset to cover the work and that builders wouldn't want to pay the right money to those that could do it.
 
jamesthefirst said:
With boards classed as hazerdous waste do you think a new type of board will be invented. If an 8x4 was the same weight as one piece of coving and so strong that you didn’t have to cut them on the half joist. No waste. :)
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I don't get any waste
 
essexandy said:
I had a meeting with a BG rep about ten years ago and he said that they (BG) were going to try and push for float and set to become the norm again, to cut down on waste. I told him that there wasn't a hope in hell of that happening as there wouldn't be enough tradesmen with the right skillset to cover the work and that builders wouldn't want to pay the right money to those that could do it.
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Is it really less waste when it blows 10 years later n has to all come down
 
jamesthefirst said:
With boards classed as hazerdous waste do you think a new type of board will be invented. If an 8x4 was the same weight as one piece of coving and so strong that you didn’t have to cut them on the half joist. No waste. :)
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All offcuts stuck in cavity of stud walls for extra sound proofing if your not using them to join ceiling boards mid joist
 
Whats in plasterboard that is hazardous? I know it has fiberglass in it but that is only glass or isnt it?

I thought gypsum was just stone/clay?
 
satan said:
Whats in plasterboard that is hazardous? I know it has fiberglass in it but that is only glass or isnt it?

I thought gypsum was just stone/clay?
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Many compost recipes have a proportion of gypsum in them
 
If bg are that worried about plasterboard waste, why dont they spec laminate partitions. The waste is next to nothing.
 
jamesthefirst said:
A builder I worked for 20 years ago put loads of off cuts on both sides of a stud to block up a door! He was ahead of his time., although I used half a roll of scrim lol.
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Not a good idea and too time consuming , stick them in the cavity, I keep any leftovers for the next job , great for soundproofing toilet/bedroom stud wall in particular, better than nothing , half a bucket is skim and stick all over, overlap gaps with different layers
 
They reduced the weight of coving by 30% around 5-10 years ago, made of the same stuff.
Remember when 2 boards were always taped together? There was a knack to tearing it off then snapping to release the other side.(y)
 
Havagojo said:
Not a good idea and too time consuming , stick them in the cavity, I keep any leftovers for the next job , great for soundproofing toilet/bedroom stud wall in particular, better than nothing , half a bucket is skim and stick all over, overlap gaps with different layers
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But how do you get the proper sound insulation in if it's filled with offcuts?
 
essexandy said:
But how do you get the proper sound insulation in if it's filled with offcuts?
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I don't work on new builds so not working to spec and most of my customers are looking to save £ , penny pinching no doubt , but I give them the choice , have often stuck one layer in and rockwool which easily compresses , may have some mad ideas Andy but never proceed without full explanation to customers , at the end of the day I will conform to the norm it's up to them , I'm just paid by the hour
 
essexandy said:
But how do you get the proper sound insulation in if it's filled with offcuts?
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It's a bit like jointing ceiling boards mid most and double skimming , these are methods for occasional use , it's for discussion ,everyone shoot the idea down and have a laugh I don't mind as I'm looking for faults and improvements , I get my laughs from plenty of so called spreads on here who quite frankly should not be allowed to even mix up , full offence intended ( just for fun )
 
essexandy said:
I had a meeting with a BG rep about ten years ago and he said that they (BG) were going to try and push for float and set to become the norm again, to cut down on waste. I told him that there wasn't a hope in hell of that happening as there wouldn't be enough tradesmen with the right skillset to cover the work and that builders wouldn't want to pay the right money to those that could do it.
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I’ve made a concerted effort to apply backing coats instead of using plasterboard recently, you in an ideal situation to use Ritmo to do the same tbf
 
Vincey said:
I’ve made a concerted effort to apply backing coats instead of using plasterboard recently, you in an ideal situation to use Ritmo to do the same tbf
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And Andy would you bother to machine one room, how much would have to go on for it to be worth it,
 
Havagojo said:
And Andy would you bother to machine one room, how much would have to go on for it to be worth it,
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I would mate , think about it say even a small 3x3 room as example roughly let’s say 12 bags hardwall compared to take all boards in cut them then go get driwall and mix that then dab and apply them , he’d have the whole room floated by 11.30 am go for dinner come back and skim it and materials cost would be less , more profit for him
Only have to pop the gun through the window into his room and take in a straight edge
 
Vincey said:
I’ve made a concerted effort to apply backing coats instead of using plasterboard recently, you in an ideal situation to use Ritmo to do the same tbf
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If I'm floating I use box screeds and that doesn't work well with a Ritmo. I'm just not a fan of free ruling on internals.
 
Vincey said:
I would mate , think about it say even a small 3x3 room as example roughly let’s say 12 bags hardwall compared to take all boards in cut them then go get driwall and mix that then dab and apply them , he’d have the whole room floated by 11.30 am go for dinner come back and skim it and materials cost would be less , more profit for him
Only have to pop the gun through the window into his room and take in a straight edge
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A 3 X 3 room I'll have floated in under two hours by hand and quicker still with the Ritmo if I used it. We have done a couple of Hardwall jobs with the Ritmo and it fires it on bloody quickly and with way less effort, no question.
 
essexandy said:
A 3 X 3 room I'll have floated in under two hours by hand and quicker still with the Ritmo if I used it. We have done a couple of Hardwall jobs with the Ritmo and it fires it on bloody quickly and with way less effort, no question.
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And how much does the machine cost , I've been on my own for about 25y and not my market , appreciate the ease of hardwall , miss my younger days with my dad , I'd float SNC and leave him to skim , skimming was for the old and limp wristed ( gaas far as I was concerned , new I would have to take the easy penny one day so enjoyed every minute
 
Havagojo said:
And how much does the machine cost , I've been on my own for about 25y and not my market , appreciate the ease of hardwall , miss my younger days with my dad , I'd float SNC and leave him to skim , skimming was for the old and limp wristed ( gaas far as I was concerned , new I would have to take the easy penny one day so enjoyed every minute
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I've no idea how much a Ritmo would cost to fire on render and Hardwall as I bought mine quite some time ago and with lots of extra kit. Which all sits in the unit lol.
 
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