Polish plasterers

[Gromit1]

Hello - I've met a plasterer from Poland who reckons that he does great work. Thing is he always sands the walls after he's plastered them. Now I would have thought that with a proper plasterer doing the job you should be able to decorate straight on top.

Does it really matter though if the finished decorated job looks good? By the way I was surprised to hear that in Poland there wasn't plaster like we know it till recently. They used a white hard filler which needs sanding.

 

[S a plastering]

ha ha ha let him tell ya hes supposse to be a profesional

 

[beddy]

i plaster a job for you, it dries out, you paint it.

he plasters a job for you, lets it dry. then comes back to sand it all, then you have to hoover up a s**t load of dust, then you paint it...
:RpS_blink:

 

[wiganlad]

the painter that i had paint my house did the mist coat with a machine mega quick. then gave each coat a lite sand b4 the next one. said your ment to do it like that?

 

[owls]

whats the world coming to.some lads are competing against wasters like this.

 

[spunky]

I've probably seen alot more s**t English spreads

 

[Danny]

I have to agree with spunk as well... some of the poles I have seen have been good. We had a pole do some work in my uncles unit and it is faultless...

I think if you spray paint wall though you have to whip over the walls with a sander because you get what effectively is over spray? I may be wrong I dont think its a case of 40grit paper but still none the less

Just thinking out a loud

 

[Capital spread]

The reason they have to sand it down is because its been polished like glass and the paint won't stick.
If they were taught the correct way they would lay the finish on flat. Not put it on anyhow then scrape it flat with a trowel

 

[Danny]

I was answering Wiganlad....lol not Grom

 

[rockhardsolidplastering]

The reason they have to sand it down is because its been polished like glass and the paint won't stick.
If they were taught the correct way they would lay the finish on flat. Not put it on anyhow then scrape it flat with a trowel

this is true they burn the fcuk out of it .no need to sand a decent plastered finish

 

[plasterjfe]

you prob get nibs in the wall whan spraying coats so a light flash over will take them out. (nibs = technical jargon in paintspraying circles for dust specs)

 

[henry]

They use to say all the best spreads came from up north, thats why there down south working LOL.

 

[spark2010]

sanding multi finish is laughable...
A lot of poles and eastern europeans are s**t plasterers....
BUT.....
the reason why quite a lot of them are actually decent spreads is because they spend some time in Germany,
where everthing is done to perfection anyway. Its three warnings with trades and then
your gone...

 

[a.d.plastering]

spark you talkin from experience :RpS_laugh: jokin

 

[spark2010]

spark you talkin from experience :RpS_laugh: jokin

lol...yeah

What it is, there is a guy who comes in to where i work, he has a repuation as a decent builder and he is
bulgarian, he admitted his plastering was s**t and then trained up in germany... Another
guy told me something similar few months ago !!!

 

[a.d.plastering]

& speakin from experience most poles on site one coat & sponge it back as ive watched them doe it on site but 2 be fare there are some good ones who take pride in what they doe & i agree with spunky there are some bad english spreads usually come straight off 4 week plastering course seen a few :huh:

 

[superspread]

The reason they have to sand it down is because its been polished like glass and the paint won't stick.
If they were taught the correct way they would lay the finish on flat. Not put it on anyhow then scrape it flat with a trowel

thats rubbish they couldnt polish it with mr sheen,all they know is easifil thats why they sand it down

 

[Gromit1]

Oh and I forgot something else which spooked me. Mr Polish plasterer also told me that he adds cement to his bonding to make it go off quicker. There has to be a downside with doing that because even if it does make the undercoat go off quicker surely British Gypsum would do it themselves so there must be a good reaosn why they don't.

 

[Danny]

yup thats a common thing putting cement in bonding....

 

[Gromit1]

Common gov but ok? I just thought if it was a good thing to do then why don't the manufacturers do it. I wonder now about my cracking plaster that I put on a previous thread - they were a polish mob so I wonder if that has something to do with it i.e can cement cause bonding to crack.

 

[rockhardsolidplastering]

i dont personally put cement in bonding in fact mixing it with finish will set it a lot quicker than normal . this tho isnt imo the reason your finish cracked it happens on re skims and really there is no definate answer as to why .you have been given the answer in fibres now dont hire cheap nasty foreign spreads who dont have vast experience of our conditions hire the right man do your homework it aint hard

Common gov but ok? I just thought if it was a good thing to do then why don't the manufacturers do it. I wonder now about my cracking plaster that I put on a previous thread - they were a polish mob so I wonder if that has something to do with it i.e can cement cause bonding to crack.

 

[Gromit1]

I hope I haven't hit a nerve there.

I don't necessarily put cheap nasty and foreign together. Of the projects that we've done most have tradesmen have been English and some foreign - Italians, one German (he was the worst), and a Pole. We've had some pretty dodgy Brits amongst them and some great ones. Because our work takes us all over we've not been able to get a team together and we hire according to who impresses us and by seeing previous work. I can tell you that in our experience hiring a Brit is no guarantee of success. Some of the best work has been by my countrymen and so has some of the worst.

 

[rockhardsolidplastering]

well why didnt you use some of these decent ones on your own house that way it would nt of cracked.i could nt give a rats if you use foreign people just not cheap ones that sand their cracked work no body mentioned brits except you

 

[Danny]

Personally... I rather use dirty water if I want bonding to go off quick....

However as far as cracking... could be anything due to movement or work being carried out on teh other side of the wall or if the wall was not treated to kill some suction... lots of variables (sorry I have not seen the thread)

employing brits does not guarantee a good job however it prob hit a nerve because there are a lot of good plasterers on here without work and when it gets mentioned that some one has hired person from another country and its rough or not turned out the way it was meant to it is frustrating to those that are time served and leave a perfect job... that's just my opinion

 

[rockhardsolidplastering]

no didnt hit a nerve i just know that he chose a cheap plasterer and it seems he still has nt learnt

 

[Gromit1]

well why didnt you use some of these decent ones on your own house that way it would nt of cracked.i could nt give a rats if you use foreign people just not cheap ones that sand their cracked work no body mentioned brits except you

Money was never the driver for us - that was your assumption. The previous thread relating to cracks in new plaster was nothing to do with this thread - another job in another part of the country. I hardly think that employing a "decent" plasterer could ensure a crack free finish. Like Danny said there are so many variables so I'll never know for sure what caused it but hopefully with the words of wisdon here I'll do all I can to minimise it happening again and perhaps find decent plasterers for future jobs.