Rendering External Corners

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Biggsy

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Hi All,

I'm new to plastering and I'm currently about half way through a city & guilds / NVQ2 course.

I've been asked to do some work for a friend and have a quick question on rendering.

A glass room has been built around a patio door and there is a small area of pebbledashed wall that is now inside the glass room. The original plan was to dot n dab then skim but due to a change of design the wall will not be entirely sealed off from the elements and now needs to be rendered smooth.

There is a return of about 1 inch back to the patio door and my question is: how to render this corner? I think the existing corner is too narrow to fit a corner bead, so can this be done by simply holding a batten or feather-edge against it and render in to that?

Also, there is a lip at the bottom of the existing pebbledashed wall for water run-off, should a stop bead be fitted here?

Any tips / advice would be really appreciated.

I hope this post makes sense.

Thanks.
 
Sounds like you already have it sussed mate.
you could cut the wing of the corner bead to suit? But forming it with a straight edge will do the job:RpS_thumbup:
I would use a bell bead at the bottom tho.
welcome to the forum:RpS_thumbup:
 
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Hi Fatarm, thanks for the reply and good idea about cutting the bead wing to suit and using a bell bead at the bottom.

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Hi Lizard821000, thansk for the reply. The area was an external wall but is now inside a glass room, however doors are not being fitted to the glass room :RpS_confused: leaving the area around the patio door slighty exposed to the weather and the owner wants this area finished differently to the rest of the external wall - it's kinda hard to explain in words but I hope you get the idea.
 
think iv got ya lol

cut the bead down and use that, or use a stop bead and hang it over to create an edge to render too for the smaller return... iv i get what you mean lol
 
Excellent, thanks for all your replies. I feel much more confident to do it now that it seems I'm on the right track. I'm trying to post a couple of pictures but I don't seem to have the necessary permissions.
 
I was going to say something here but decided not to... OH well i will... anything exposed to weather cant be done with gypsum... (THAT'S PLASTER) enough said... you can either use beads or free form angles using a straight edge... FFS what the fcuk is this forum coming to....£50 per hour on lessons on how to form external angles in s and c without using beads... £100 if i teach you how to run curved angles....
 
Render systems Whats your point mate ???!!

The lad has stated in his first post He's "new to plastering and currently about half way through a city & guilds / NVQ2 course."
 
If it is an inch thick then build it up in layers and let each layer stiffen up. Do it all in one and it will slump. Build up, stick the bead in and let set. Then final coat to finish.
 
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I was going to say something here but decided not to... OH well i will... anything exposed to weather cant be done with gypsum... (THAT'S PLASTER) enough said... you can either use beads or free form angles using a straight edge... FFS what the fcuk is this forum coming to....£50 per hour on lessons on how to form external angles in s and c without using beads... £100 if i teach you how to run curved angles....
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Airborne said:
Render systems Whats your point mate ???!!

The lad has stated in his first post He's "new to plastering and currently about half way through a city & guilds / NVQ2 course."
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Render's been on the vino again, but I agree with him!!!
Half way through a course and the college hasn't shown him anything as basic as forming an arris :RpS_scared:
 
surely thats the colleges fault for not showing him, The youngin ive got, got shown very little at college and only dot & dabbed once in 3 years and never rendered at all. the college didnt have any finish for 3 months...................:RpS_thumbdn:
 
The problem with the colleges in some cases is that the lectures sometimes are called trowel trade lecturers so could be a brickie teaching plastering and visa versa. Knowledge among the trowel trades has been diluted more and more since the early nineties (in my opinion anyway) Also years ago the college salaries used to be a lot better for instance in 1985 i was being paid £10.61 per hr as a part time plastering lecturer at wearside college. This meant with attractive pay people who were good and knew their stuff would chase these jobs cos it was a heluva lot better than site bashing. for instance i had a kid work with me a few years ago and all he did at college was float and skim a handi board and skim a handy board granted this was only lvl 1 nvq but i mean ffs what good is that !!!!
 
he has already said after the change of plan and it now being left exposed that his finish was going to be diff, i guess the ones with common sense just assumed it would be render. :rolleyes)

infact it says its render in first post.

college only teaches you to hold a trowel, nothing else really, oh and for the paper work! all plastering skills are learnt from doing hands on.iv worked with lads fresh outta college and put on their first site were like, how the fk do we plaster that!? or how do i reach that etc....
 
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