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ghekoman

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Hi - I have a 1 storey extension to the side of my house - the previous owners had got as far as getting the scratch coat on but never got as far as getting the top coat done.

The extension is a big old building - originally an old bakery - going back to the early 1900's so is solid brick construction.

The scratch coat looks pretty solid and is waterproof as we have been in the house for about 5 years and no water ingress.

I am now feeling brave having built up my DIY skills and want to apply a cement top coat. The wall has been beaded and is ready to work on.

The only problem that I can see is that a small wooden window lintel was rendered over and the scratch coat has cracked and is coming away - there appears to be no eml on this.

My questions are:

1 - Do I need to wash the scratch coat down or treat it with a fungicide? - the surface is dry and clean with nothing growing on it.

2 - How much sand would I need to give a 6mm topcoat (60 SQM)?

3 - I have read that the top coat needs to be made with a 5 : 1 plastering sand : cement ratio - should I use these ratios; also do I need to use an admixture? (I have some Febmix) should I also incorporate some lime to prevent cracking?

4 - How much water should I use in the cement mixer/what kind of consistency do I need the muck to be?

5 - I was planning to rip up some 6 mm plywood to make battens and screw them to the wall to ensure a level finish when I use the float. However the wall length is 19 metres and its height is 3 metres - realistically how much wall could I cover before the mix becomes unworkable?

6 - For the wooden lintel can I just use eml (how do plasterers get that nice curved finish above the window?)?

7 - Do I need to cover the render with polythene whilst it is drying?

I plan to practise on a section of my garden wall first but I am hoping that I can get a reasonable finish using the float and sponge.

Any tips/help will be greatfully received!

Cheers

Ghekoman
 
Seriously mate get the pros in, jobs such as these need an experienced hand and its a fair area. Get the spreads in and watch how its all done.
 
welcome to the forum Ghekoman.......I echo what andy has just said marra 60m2 is a big ask for a DIYer...goodluck.......:RpS_thumbup:
 
Hi - I have a 1 storey extension to the side of my house - the previous owners had got as far as getting the scratch coat on but never got as far as getting the top coat done.

The extension is a big old building - originally an old bakery - going back to the early 1900's so is solid brick construction.

The scratch coat looks pretty solid and is waterproof as we have been in the house for about 5 years and no water ingress.

I am now feeling brave having built up my DIY skills and want to apply a cement top coat. The wall has been beaded and is ready to work on.

The only problem that I can see is that a small wooden window lintel was rendered over and the scratch coat has cracked and is coming away - there appears to be no eml on this.

My questions are:

1 - Do I need to wash the scratch coat down or treat it with a fungicide? - the surface is dry and clean with nothing growing on it.

2 - How much sand would I need to give a 6mm topcoat (60 SQM)?

3 - I have read that the top coat needs to be made with a 5 : 1 plastering sand : cement ratio - should I use these ratios; also do I need to use an admixture? (I have some Febmix) should I also incorporate some lime to prevent cracking?

4 - How much water should I use in the cement mixer/what kind of consistency do I need the muck to be?

5 - I was planning to rip up some 6 mm plywood to make battens and screw them to the wall to ensure a level finish when I use the float. However the wall length is 19 metres and its height is 3 metres - realistically how much wall could I cover before the mix becomes unworkable?

6 - For the wooden lintel can I just use eml (how do plasterers get that nice curved finish above the window?)?

7 - Do I need to cover the render with polythene whilst it is drying?

I plan to practise on a section of my garden wall first but I am hoping that I can get a reasonable finish using the float and sponge.

Any tips/help will be greatfully received!

Cheers

Ghekoman

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I would normally say you don't learn nothing unless you try yourself, however as has been echoed here and will be again.
Get it done properly mate, you will have lots of heartache and wish you had some professionals in if you don't.

If you are adamant on giving it a go then there is a "rendering how to" on the forum kindly put together by an experienced plasterer.

Rock on!
 
Some before, during and after pictures would be interesting here.

Dont let them put you off gheko, their cups are half empty. Get stuck into it, you'll really enjoy that feeling of satisfaction when you stand back and look at the finished job and think....."I done that and proved all those pessimists wrong!"
 
Hi - I have a 1 storey extension to the side of my house - the previous owners had got as far as getting the scratch coat on but never got as far as getting the top coat done.

The extension is a big old building - originally an old bakery - going back to the early 1900's so is solid brick construction.

The scratch coat looks pretty solid and is waterproof as we have been in the house for about 5 years and no water ingress.

I am now feeling brave having built up my DIY skills and want to apply a cement top coat. The wall has been beaded and is ready to work on.

The only problem that I can see is that a small wooden window lintel was rendered over and the scratch coat has cracked and is coming away - there appears to be no eml on this.

My questions are:

1 - Do I need to wash the scratch coat down or treat it with a fungicide? - the surface is dry and clean with nothing growing on it.

2 - How much sand would I need to give a 6mm topcoat (60 SQM)?

3 - I have read that the top coat needs to be made with a 5 : 1 plastering sand : cement ratio - should I use these ratios; also do I need to use an admixture? (I have some Febmix) should I also incorporate some lime to prevent cracking?

4 - How much water should I use in the cement mixer/what kind of consistency do I need the muck to be?

5 - I was planning to rip up some 6 mm plywood to make battens and screw them to the wall to ensure a level finish when I use the float. However the wall length is 19 metres and its height is 3 metres - realistically how much wall could I cover before the mix becomes unworkable?

6 - For the wooden lintel can I just use eml (how do plasterers get that nice curved finish above the window?)?

7 - Do I need to cover the render with polythene whilst it is drying?

I plan to practise on a section of my garden wall first but I am hoping that I can get a reasonable finish using the float and sponge.

Any tips/help will be greatfully received!

Cheers

Ghekoman
Where is the job mate? if the building is 1900 it should be lime mate.
 
All of the above mate, pay someone in the know and watch them, then have a wee bash at your garden wall yourself, avoid a major headache for yourself:RpS_thumbup:
 
60m2 is a big wall for an experience team with a rendering machine. No don't chance it, get someone in and watch them. You will realise what a lucky escape you had.
 
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