Haha it's for my mum so ill be getting paid in sarnies a reasonable dinner and possibly a few tinnies after
Tips on overboarding a cieling
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Haha it's for my mum so ill be getting paid in sarnies a reasonable dinner and possibly a few tinnies after
Haha it's for my mum so ill be getting paid in sarnies a reasonable dinner and possibly a few tinnies after
bloody hell I don't get that much from my normal jobs!!!:RpS_thumbsup:
could easily double that and then some if I take a trip over to me nans after!! Lol
top man!!!:RpS_thumbup:
Carljenk
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Haha it's for my mum so ill be getting paid in sarnies a reasonable dinner and possibly a few tinnies after
Can you stop talking prices it causes arguments
jeanclaudevangyproc
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Didnt know bobby ewing made hammers??:RpS_thumbsup:
CTPlastering
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I know i normally ask for some cookies aswell ! Dont be letting every one know u dont need to buy the cookies ! So prices stop now !
Had an uber big artex ceiling to do and I decided to reinforce existing board as it'd been tacked up with nails n ice cream..
My method..
find the first joist on one side of room, this can be done anyway you like but as I was not over boarding i drilled down from loft as I didn't want to bash the lid..
put a plasterboard screw in the centre of the joist, at both ends.. Leave it 2 or 3 turns off flush.
You now have two screws in two corners of the room, marking the centre of the first joist in the run. Find the joist pitch ( as I had access to loft was easy), then hook your tape on each screw in turn and mark out the rest of the joist runs with a pencil.....
Put a a single screw in each joist position you marked with pencil, at both ends of room just as you'd done with the first joist. Start with the furthest away joist.....if it hits home the likelihood is the rest of them will hit home....if not shift left and right an inch and have fingers crossed! , remembering to leave them 2 or 3 turns off flush with board..
when all your joist ends are marked with a screw ( again not fully home), get a string line, start in one corner and link all the screws with the string in one hit, tighten the last screw down on your string line and your ceiling is strung out for screwing!
maybe overkill but on your own, and where you don't want to disturb the existing too much, if works a treat and surprisingly efficient and far easier to do than explain!
I expect the the same could be done for over boarding but I normally just get my old mans old brick hammer out and make a proper mess!
My method..
find the first joist on one side of room, this can be done anyway you like but as I was not over boarding i drilled down from loft as I didn't want to bash the lid..
put a plasterboard screw in the centre of the joist, at both ends.. Leave it 2 or 3 turns off flush.
You now have two screws in two corners of the room, marking the centre of the first joist in the run. Find the joist pitch ( as I had access to loft was easy), then hook your tape on each screw in turn and mark out the rest of the joist runs with a pencil.....
Put a a single screw in each joist position you marked with pencil, at both ends of room just as you'd done with the first joist. Start with the furthest away joist.....if it hits home the likelihood is the rest of them will hit home....if not shift left and right an inch and have fingers crossed! , remembering to leave them 2 or 3 turns off flush with board..
when all your joist ends are marked with a screw ( again not fully home), get a string line, start in one corner and link all the screws with the string in one hit, tighten the last screw down on your string line and your ceiling is strung out for screwing!
maybe overkill but on your own, and where you don't want to disturb the existing too much, if works a treat and surprisingly efficient and far easier to do than explain!
I expect the the same could be done for over boarding but I normally just get my old mans old brick hammer out and make a proper mess!
Something wrong with this blog......? Posting random comments?
customer had been warned of the 'lethal' asbestos hazard, I even had a sprayer on hand to damp down any dust whilst screwing the screws home.....!
As it went, a very accessible loft, not boarded so was a 60 second job to pop a 2mm drill bit through a ceiling and measure the joist pitch.
Best part, the customer was so impressed at the effort I went to and how professional it was . now doing his daughters house ....top to bottom.
Jurek
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RESPECT :RpS_wink:
Jurek
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what the fcuk is your problem? first you're going on about your neighbour's daughter and now this :huh: sure i saw you on crimewatch :RpS_unsure:
not a bad idea!!! Awkward if you've only got a 6ft cable on it though......lol
Ok,so we decided against overboarding due to A, not being able to fit boards into my van and B, breaking the board I put into my van when checking it would fit by closing the door and C, is A and B not sufficient enough? So we scraped around the damaged bit then overskimmed and this was the finished product. First ceiling attempt remember.
get it covered quicker , then get over it softer ,constantly looking at your work from all different angles, by the time its set you should have spotted all misses, looks like you have done a hard trowel, try finish(cross trowel) just before it changes colour ,all same way ends up uniformed, opposite ways equal striped finish ,good luck in your plight for perfection !!
we all strive for this, its what keeps your work good and upto a decent standard, it wont happen overnight so be patient :RpS_thumbup:
we all strive for this, its what keeps your work good and upto a decent standard, it wont happen overnight so be patient :RpS_thumbup:
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stuart23
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This was a ceiling I done few weeks back with the new unifinish. As you can see it's all drying the same colour and I've checked at all angles for any hollows or missis.
jesssop
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and now its all over the floor
stuart23
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Still clinging on
Arti
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Smooth and shiney........................:RpS_thumbup:
George..
you will hear people say, 'just get it on the wall and trowel up'.....or the like.. , they're either very good, or very stupid if they say this, as they ain't got a clue how you lay on..... As the wand says, 'misses' is the word used when you've left a void in the finish as you're laying on, ie you have not filled it with multi or whatever..
However, heres the secret to fewer misses and an easier troweling up routine... All about laying on properly in the first place
one you've laid your first coat, flatten off.....you'll then notice the low spots.....or 'misses'. Obviously, this ain't a problem as you're gonna smash a second coat on...this is they key stage to ensure you don't leave any misses......
the second layin coat should not leave any missus, cus if there are, you then gotta fill em in on 1st trowel...or second if unlucky enough to miss at 1st.
The secret is, take your time on the second layin, butter coat or whatever you call it.....this will pay dividends for the rest of the set.....don't labour on it but.....don't rush it.
As a rule, I'd overlap the previous line ( spread gear) with my trowel by 2/3 inches( maybe more depending how much gear you carry on your trowel and how you load it), until you notice the join between the stripe you're laying and the previous is nothing more than a seem.....which is easy to flatten off at the 1st trowel.. If there looks like a void between the two, that's a miss....it'll take 5 seconds at this point to quickly run your trowel down this with a little gear ....thus filling the miss.
So, you shouldn't have any misses at all when you arrive at the troweling up stage.....sadly I can't always practice what I'm preaching!
As always, all down to experience......keep it up and a switch will click one day and you'll master it.
Have a look at these I took a long time ago, it's all a uniform colour because I've not needed to spread weak gear into misses or trowel off high spots.....secret is in the second layin......
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