Used too little water in mist coat

[a.how]

Sorry if this is the wrong section.

I read somewhere that you should us 10% water for the mist coat, which I have found out is too little water. I have cut into the corners and edges of a room using this ratio. Should I go back and sand those areas back down to the plaster and start again?

Thanks

 

[Kinkyboy]

Sorry if this is the wrong section.

I read somewhere that you should us 10% water for the mist coat, which I have found out is too little water. I have cut into the corners and edges of a room using this ratio. Should I go back and sand those areas back down to the plaster and start again?

Thanks

Cant see it make a difference,in future just do roughly 50/50..ya get me

 

[Stewie03]

Usually when I get customers bending my ear about over complicating mist coats and ratios etc I just tell them to buy bare plaster paint instead

 

[smoother09]

I use 12% and measure it out with a turkey baster!!! Grow up!!

 

[ChrispyUK]

Sorry if this is the wrong section.

I read somewhere that you should us 10% water for the mist coat, which I have found out is too little water. I have cut into the corners and edges of a room using this ratio. Should I go back and sand those areas back down to the plaster and start again?

Thanks

Don’t worry, will be fine. Chuck a bit more water in if you want and go over the Whole lot.

 

[Cockney]

Don’t worry, will be fine. Chuck a bit more water in if you want and go over the Whole lot.

 

[johniosaif]

20 percent

 

[paulf]

Depends on the paint, if it some b&q shite less water, if its decent then.

 

[Kinkyboy]

Depends on the paint, if it some b&q shite less water, if its decent then.
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Absoloute barn cake he was,Kurt angle is it

 

[Deleted member 46546]

Usually when I get customers bending my ear about over complicating mist coats and ratios etc I just tell them to buy bare plaster paint instead

Spot on. Screwfix bare plaster paint every time. Why f**k around with a mist coat that barely covers anything anyway, just means you have to do an extra coat and get covered in thinned paint

 

[Monkey Boy]

Depends how well it has adhered really?
If your talking about sanding it off then it has adhered well enough!
If it peels off under your finger whilst rubbing over it then rub it off where it yields to such an agitation

 

[Deleted member 32554]

Reskim job I'm afraid

 

[Cockney]

Reskim job I'm afraid

 

[Stevieo]

Sorry if this is the wrong section.

I read somewhere that you should us 10% water for the mist coat, which I have found out is too little water. I have cut into the corners and edges of a room using this ratio. Should I go back and sand those areas back down to the plaster and start again?

Thanks

Yes. You've left snots on the wall and if you paint over them you'll still have snots on the wall.

Sand them back and start again more like 50/50 and mix it well.

Happy sanding knob head

Do you like my pallid bust of Pallas?

 

[tapit]

Usually when I get customers bending my ear about over complicating mist coats and ratios etc I just tell them to buy bare plaster paint instead

New plaster emulsion should be mist coated too.

 

[Cockney]

New plaster emulsion should be mist coated too.

 

[essexandy]

f**k me I've accidentally strolled into the Decorators Forum. Unsurprisingly just as much bad advice on here as on TPF.

 

[tapit]

It's written on the back of the tubs.
We spray hundreds of gallons a year.
Put a pic up of the writing on back of container and i will read it for you.

 

[essexandy]

It's written on the back of the tubs.
We spray hundreds of gallons a year.
Put a pic up of the writing on back of container and i will read it for you.

And this is the level we've plummeted to, where tapit is talking more sense than every other bit of advice offered.
Hang your heads in shame.

 

[carys]

And this is the level we've plummeted to, where tapit is talking more sense than every other bit of advice offered.
Hang your heads in shame.

And this is the level we've plummeted to, where tapit is talking more sense than every other bit of advice offered.
Hang your heads in shame.

As we are talking about paint. Has anybody being on a job after it being painted and you see roller shadows or is it me ha

 

[ChrispyUK]

As we are talking about paint. Has anybody being on a job after it being painted and you see roller shadows or is it me ha

yep, had it a few times...pees me off.

Most paints say about 10% dilution for mist coating, but I usually put a tad more in. Game changer for me was buying an airless sprayer, brilliant bit of kit. I usually give bare plaster a quick wipe over with a damp cloth before painting.

 

[tapit]

And this is the level we've plummeted to, where tapit is talking more sense than every other bit of advice offered.
Hang your heads in shame.

 

[Donzo]

Today on a job a decorator with over 40 years expierence,his work looked bang on.papering top notch, talks about some plasterers he has followed,blah blah.
He said he follows a lad who leaves work like a mirror.
I said is that not a problem for you painting it.
He said why.
I said adhesion not gripping.
He said never had a problem on shiny plaster as long as mist coat done properly.

I dont do shiny,but if a decorator says that,who am i to say your wrong.

 

[carys]

yep, had it a few times...pees me off.

Most paints say about 10% dilution for mist coating, but I usually put a tad more in. Game changer for me was buying an airless sprayer, brilliant bit of kit. I usually give bare plaster a quick wipe over with a damp cloth before painting.

I

Today on a job a decorator with over 40 years expierence,his work looked bang on.papering top notch, talks about some plasterers he has followed,blah blah.
He said he follows a lad who leaves work like a mirror.
I said is that not a problem for you painting it.
He said why.
I said adhesion not gripping.
He said never had a problem on shiny plaster as long as mist coat done properly.

I dont do shiny,but if a decorator says that,who am i to say your wrong.

Hes rhight. only people that complain about shiny wall the one that can't paint. Old school always buffed new plaster up whith light sand paper good key for paint only takes 2 minutes. But time is money today.

 

[Kinkyboy]

Today on a job a decorator with over 40 years expierence,his work looked bang on.papering top notch, talks about some plasterers he has followed,blah blah.
He said he follows a lad who leaves work like a mirror.
I said is that not a problem for you painting it.
He said why.
I said adhesion not gripping.
He said never had a problem on shiny plaster as long as mist coat done properly.

I dont do shiny,but if a decorator says that,who am i to say your wrong.

Never got it myself also.theres nowt wrong with leaving a shine,makes customers happy and who am I to begrudge them a shine,couldn't give a f**k if it dosnt adhere for the painter,I'm long gone with money in sky rocket

 

[ChrispyUK]

Today on a job a decorator with over 40 years expierence,his work looked bang on.papering top notch, talks about some plasterers he has followed,blah blah.
He said he follows a lad who leaves work like a mirror.
I said is that not a problem for you painting it.
He said why.
I said adhesion not gripping.
He said never had a problem on shiny plaster as long as mist coat done properly.

I dont do shiny,but if a decorator says that,who am i to say your wrong.

95% of time I end up painting my own plastering, so never usually an issue. Always worry when customer says they are going to paint it as you know they’re gonna f**k it up.

 

[essexandy]

I

Hes rhight. only people that complain about shiny wall the one that can't paint. Old school always buffed new plaster up whith light sand paper good key for paint only takes 2 minutes. But time is money today.

Any decent decorator will only have to put a key on the plaster if the spread has not done his job properly.
It's like saying a spread shouldn't moan about shite blockwork, I mean he's only got to dub it out.

 

[ChrispyUK]

Any decent decorator will only have to put a key on the plaster if the spread has not done his job properly.
It's like saying a spread shouldn't moan about shite blockwork, I mean he's only got to dub it out.

I just moan to myself at every stage.

 

[carys]

Never got it myself also.theres nowt wrong with leaving a shine,makes customers happy and who am I to begrudge them a shine,couldn't give a f**k if it dosnt adhere for the painter,I'm long gone with money in sky rocket

Any decent decorator will only have to put a key on the plaster if the spread has not done his job properly.
It's like saying a spread shouldn't moan about shite blockwork, I mean he's only got to dub it out.

How do you put a key on skim before painting then? Not saying you have to it just a better job for paint!

 

[essexandy]

How do you put a key on skim before painting then? Not saying you have to it just a better job for paint!

As you said, they lightly sand it, but they shouldn't have to.
Obviously there are times and circumstances where we all leave work shinier than we'd like.

 

[Kinkyboy]

How do you put a key on skim before painting then? Not saying you have to it just a better job for paint!

I really don't care

 

[carys]

As you said, they lightly sand it, but they shouldn't have to.
Obviously there are times and circumstances where we all leave work shinier than we'd like.

Old plaster told me years ago if you over trowel you will create dips in the wall anybody else herd that?

 

[Kinkyboy]

Old plaster told me years ago if you over trowel you will create dips in the wall anybody else herd that?

I think he means if you go over it too early,cant create a dip if timings are right

 

[carys]

I think he means if you go over it too early,cant create a dip if timings are right

You can when it gone off if press like mad man. It all about timing and treating the wall nicley not to hard

 

[Retired Spread]

Never understood the logic behind shining the shyte out of skim.
You can polish the fkout of it as much as possible but what happens when you paint it?
Does the wall still stay fkin shiny after decoration? (that's of course if you can get the paint to stick to it in the first place)
Do decorators use some kind of magic fkin paint so the shine of the skim still shows?

It's bad practise and a complete waste of time doing it.

It's all just ego stroking imo