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bubbles65

bubbles65

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If a tiler told you not to bother skimming the hardwall, "Cos you can tile straight onto it" what would you do?


1.Skim the ceiling, float the two walls and fkoff, making for an easy day.

2. Ignore him & skim it anyhow, making for a full day, which you're being paid for.
 
thats a hard one, i would tell him that his adheisive will sook like fuk and if he was still wanting me to leave it just straightened i would, what bout yourself
 
id prolly tell him british gypo's reckon you gotta skim it cos hardwall no good for tiles but its his head if they fall off and bugger off down the pub.. :RpS_thumbup:
 
Are you getting paid a day for just hardwall and set the ceiling? If so just do what has been asked for i cant see a problem in that?
 
bodplasterer said:
Are you getting paid a day for just hardwall and set the ceiling? If so just do what has been asked for i cant see a problem in that?
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LOL.......I have that option bod, but the customer's a decent enough bloke. I have told the tiler that it's not recommended, but he shrugged his shoulders, reckons it'll be alright. Punter knows I can tile, but I don't want to step on anyones' toes, so I'll be skimming it so the customer doesn't lose out.
 
I would meet him half way and skim the walls but just put a wavey pattern with the brush instead of a troweling up.
 
The whole tiling on backing plasters thing is debateable in my opinion, it shouldnt be done, but in small amounts sometimes has to be (**** skimming lots of small patches you have had to bond/hardwall when removing old tiles) but if its a whole wall, def should be skimmed.

However, I have removed tiles that have been stuck straight onto backing plasters before and they have been stuck like s**t to a blanket, so personally, I think if the walls is prepped right, then the tiles will stick fine, but best to stick to manufacturers recommendations in most cases!

Me personally, Id just do what he asked for, its his job, not mine, fed up of bending over backwards for people cutting corners, just gives yourself more work that you didnt plan for.
 
Freerider said:
Me personally, Id just do what he asked for, its his job, not mine, fed up of bending over backwards for people cutting corners, just gives yourself more work that you didnt plan for.
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Personally I disagree, if someone asks me to do what I know is wrong then I explain the reasons and give them the option of me doing it right or I walk away. I think your reputation is worth more than the odd little dodge job is, well mine is to me.
 
essexandy said:
Personally I disagree, if someone asks me to do what I know is wrong then I explain the reasons and give them the option of me doing it right or I walk away. I think your reputation is worth more than the odd little dodge job is, well mine is to me.
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Cant argue with that, and you are right!
 
Some times its like flogging a dead horse and you got to do what the architect or builder has specified even with your input.
 
bodplasterer said:
Some times its like flogging a dead horse and you got to do what the architect or builder has specified even with your input.
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I do agree Bod but I can't actually remember a job where an architect or house builder has asked me to something that is technically wrong, a little did odd (some very odd) or over the top perhaps but not technically wrong.
 
But surely this thread is about tiling onto hardwall devil floated whats the problem with that? I know suction may be a problem but it will be the same if it was skimmed and the tiler will most probably pva it and it wont have the same key.
 
Bod - thats my opinion too on it, we all know you CAN tile onto backing plasters perfectly fine, but both BG and Bal (tile adhesive manufacturer) all say to tile onto skim, so best to just stick to what manufacturer recommends!

And PVA, **** me, dont get people started on that one, thats another old wives tales where some adhesive companies say you can use it, others say you cant, blah blah, everything contradicts one another etc/ etc/
 
bodplasterer said:
But surely this thread is about tiling onto hardwall devil floated whats the problem with that? I know suction may be a problem but it will be the same if it was skimmed and the tiler will most probably pva it and it wont have the same key.
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Freerider said:
Bod - thats my opinion too on it, we all know you CAN tile onto backing plasters perfectly fine, but both BG and Bal (tile adhesive manufacturer) all say to tile onto skim, so best to just stick to what manufacturer recommends!

And PVA, **** me, dont get people started on that one, thats another old wives tales where some adhesive companies say you can use it, others say you cant, blah blah, everything contradicts one another etc/ etc/
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You're both right there probably wouldn't be any problem at all BUT if anything did go wrong you just know who'd get the blame. I can hear it now " I know I asked him to do it that way but I'm not a spread, he should have known better".
 
Tiling spec involves it being on a completed house but on commercial site work i have seen them tile straight onto block work you cant tell me that is in there spec?
 
nothing wrong at all with tiling straight onto blockwork with a cement based adhesive? and if a tiler asked me not to skim something then said 'im not a spread HE should have known better'... id tell him to go f'ck himself... if someone else is doing the tiling... give em what they want.... theyre the tiler after all?
 
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