What to do - scraps of plasterboard

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JT210

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I've had some building work done, not without it's challenges. I needed a ceiling overboarding and skimming. One had already been done to my satisfaction.
The size of the room is approximately 18sqm. I turned up on site one day unexpectedly and couldn't believe the state of the overboarding. Basically scraps of plasterboard had been used. We had words and later in the evening I sent an email to tell him to cancel the plasterer for the next day until we had sorted it out. He claimed not to have seen the email and finished the job anyway. It looks fine to be fair, but that's not the point. I still owe him a bit of money and wondered if you think it fair I deduct the price of plasterboard from his final payment. I attached photos of the plasterboarding.
 

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JT210 said:
I've had some building work done, not without it's challenges. I needed a ceiling overboarding and skimming. One had already been done to my satisfaction.
The size of the room is approximately 18sqm. I turned up on site one day unexpectedly and couldn't believe the state of the overboarding. Basically scraps of plasterboard had been used. We had words and later in the evening I sent an email to tell him to cancel the plasterer for the next day until we had sorted it out. He claimed not to have seen the email and finished the job anyway. It looks fine to be fair, but that's not the point. I still owe him a bit of money and wondered if you think it fair I deduct the price of plasterboard from his final payment. I attached photos of the plasterboarding.
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Glasgow area??
 
Terrible boarding, gaps/ area between boards, blown edges, spacing between screws/ lack of screws.

Don't pay him full stop, tell him you've shown a tradesman photos and been advised not to pay as likelihood of failing/cracking.
 
Steve Brown said:
Terrible boarding, gaps/ area between boards, blown edges, spacing between screws/ lack of screws.

Don't pay him full stop, tell him you've shown a tradesman photos and been advised not to pay as likelihood of failing/cracking.
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I said about cracking and he said it won't - we'll see. I've paid most of it, just owe him a couple of hundred from overall works.
Can you, or anyone say how much this should have cost - approx 18 sqm on the generous side.
I told him if I'd got an independent plasterer I wouldn't expect him to rock up with plasterboard scraps! When he did the other ceiling it was a proper job, so not sure why he's done this.
 
To be honest, it shouldn't really matter - not to you anyway - really.

I've had to get over far worse with customers, chippies, builders and even actual tackers board work before.

If the plasterer turns up and moans about it THEN you have an issue.

I'm not sure it has any more chance of cracking than actual full sheets would.....

As long as it's prepped correctly.


On the flip side, if you're getting proper charged up for it and paying top whack - then that's a slightly different matter - I'd see why.



So @JT210 :

1 What's it costing?
2 What has your plasterer said?
 
what's above it? the old plaster ceiling might plasterboard, might be lath and plaster, not sure.
Cost was £822 - I assumed that would include new materials.
I didn't see the plasterer, because I'd asked the builder to halt the work, but he ignored me and did it anyway. He subcontracted the plasterer, he uses them for all his jobs I gather.
I'm impressed with what the plasterer did on walls, feels like glass. I'm assuming it's the same one who did the ceiling, but again not sure.
 
JT210 said:
I've had some building work done, not without it's challenges. I needed a ceiling overboarding and skimming. One had already been done to my satisfaction.
The size of the room is approximately 18sqm. I turned up on site one day unexpectedly and couldn't believe the state of the overboarding. Basically scraps of plasterboard had been used. We had words and later in the evening I sent an email to tell him to cancel the plasterer for the next day until we had sorted it out. He claimed not to have seen the email and finished the job anyway. It looks fine to be fair, but that's not the point. I still owe him a bit of money and wondered if you think it fair I deduct the price of plasterboard from his final payment. I attached photos of the plasterboarding.
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That doesn't meet any sort of spec. Should definitely have been full boards wherever possible with the joints staggered and the correct number of screws. That's just a mess.
 
JT210 said:
I said about cracking and he said it won't - we'll see. I've paid most of it, just owe him a couple of hundred from overall works.
Can you, or anyone say how much this should have cost - approx 18 sqm on the generous side.
I told him if I'd got an independent plasterer I wouldn't expect him to rock up with plasterboard scraps! When he did the other ceiling it was a proper job, so not sure why he's done this.
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Get him to write you (emailed) a guarantee for that ceiling before you pay him anything else.
As for price you can't really argue as you agreed the price, but I'd have charged 450 -500 for that size if it was just a standard overboard and plaster.
 
JT210 said:
I've had some building work done, not without it's challenges. I needed a ceiling overboarding and skimming. One had already been done to my satisfaction.
The size of the room is approximately 18sqm. I turned up on site one day unexpectedly and couldn't believe the state of the overboarding. Basically scraps of plasterboard had been used. We had words and later in the evening I sent an email to tell him to cancel the plasterer for the next day until we had sorted it out. He claimed not to have seen the email and finished the job anyway. It looks fine to be fair, but that's not the point. I still owe him a bit of money and wondered if you think it fair I deduct the price of plasterboard from his final payment. I attached photos of the plasterboarding.
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problem is jt210, which by the way is the most awful name i have seen on this forum, why not jill/kylie etc, anyhooooooooo problem is, you say the first ceiling had been done to your satisfaction , but you did not see the boarding, now as you say you came home early unexpectedly and hence you are here, yet you are pleased with the rest of the plastering,

if we all being honest with each other on this forum, we have all at some point over the years ,taken short cuts, off cuts in etc etc,

you also say the end result looks fair to be fair,

pay your bill in full,


saturday night/have a nice meal/jim jams on/bottle of wine , and glass or two of malt whisky, and move on, put it behind you,

life is too short, move on dear,
 
This right here is what gets me out of bed in the morning.:sisi:

Looking forward to these things.
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And yet again, that national shortage of drywall screws.
 
hector said:
problem is jt210, which by the way is the most awful name i have seen on this forum, why not jill/kylie etc, anyhooooooooo problem is, you say the first ceiling had been done to your satisfaction , but you did not see the boarding, now as you say you came home early unexpectedly and hence you are here, yet you are pleased with the rest of the plastering,

if we all being honest with each other on this forum, we have all at some point over the years ,taken short cuts, off cuts in etc etc,

you also say the end result looks fair to be fair,

pay your bill in full,


saturday night/have a nice meal/jim jams on/bottle of wine , and glass or two of malt whisky, and move on, put it behind you,

life is too short, move on dear,
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thanks for your comment. My name is Jools. Is that any more relevant?
I DID see the plaster boarding of the other ceiling, I've been taking progress photos throughout (see pic). I would expect offcuts to be used where a full board falls short, that's fair, but not a jigsaw puzzle of pieces.

My issue is being charged the going rate (except it now seems well over the going rate) and getting scraps and off cuts for the job, that will have cost him nothing and me plenty.

I appreciate all the helpful replies, thank you all, but I don't like being patronised.

Go and put your slippers on, smoke your pipe and put your feet up. Dear.
 

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JT210 said:
thanks for your comment. My name is Jools. Is that any more relevant?
I DID see the plaster boarding of the other ceiling, I've been taking progress photos throughout (see pic). I would expect offcuts to be used where a full board falls short, that's fair, but not a jigsaw puzzle of pieces.

My issue is being charged the going rate (except it now seems well over the going rate) and getting scraps and off cuts for the job, that will have cost him nothing and me plenty.

I appreciate all the helpful replies, thank you all, but I don't like being patronised.

Go and put your slippers on, smoke your pipe and put your feet up. Dear.
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ha ha ha , brilliant comeback jools well done, but its just banter dear, goes on every day on this forum, nothing personal,
love the name jools, much better then jt210, sounded like a robot from star wars,
anyhooo jools, now we are getting along much better,
we are all in our different ways genuinely trying to keep an open mind, see both sides of the story, and make a judgement, which you may or may not agree or disagree with,

but reply with a smile, it suits you,
 
hector said:
ha ha ha , brilliant comeback jools well done, but its just banter dear, goes on every day on this forum, nothing personal,
love the name jools, much better then jt210, sounded like a robot from star wars,
anyhooo jools, now we are getting along much better,
we are all in our different ways genuinely trying to keep an open mind, see both sides of the story, and make a judgement, which you may or may not agree or disagree with,

but reply with a smile, it suits you,
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You’ve blown it with Jools Hector.

Chin up old chap
 
£822 seems heavy

But we don't know about parking, the area, access etc....


Everything is getting expensive now though.

Geezer called Rubiales in the news kissed a bird, €10,800 it cost him. No tongues either I don't think!
 
Suppose at the need of the day though if it’s a decent finish and it doesn’t crack the customer can’t really have a say, could argue the toss about joints not staggered etc but plasterboards still plasterboard
 
hector said:
problem is jt210, which by the way is the most awful name i have seen on this forum, why not jill/kylie etc, anyhooooooooo problem is, you say the first ceiling had been done to your satisfaction , but you did not see the boarding, now as you say you came home early unexpectedly and hence you are here, yet you are pleased with the rest of the plastering,

if we all being honest with each other on this forum, we have all at some point over the years ,taken short cuts, off cuts in etc etc,

you also say the end result looks fair to be fair,

pay your bill in full,


saturday night/have a nice meal/jim jams on/bottle of wine , and glass or two of malt whisky, and move on, put it behind you,

life is too short, move on dear,
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JT210 is actually an abbreviation of Joints 210, referring to the said ceiling and the number of joints in the plasterboard. Old Hector, old buddy, old pal.
 
Cockney said:
Now come on, We all know you always price your jobs ending in pence as well. You massive front wheel :LOL: :risas:
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I do depending on who the client is.

Mrs Jones, price is usually a whole figure.

Anything a bit more corporate/business like then the pence come into play. You can use it to your advantage as it looks like you’ve calculated every last nut and bolt so to speak and been extra thorough even if it’s added up on the back of a fag packet or plucked out the sky with £4.83 shoved on the end.
 
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