Planning Permissions For A Loft Conversion In A Flat
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You need linked smoke alarms, insulation, fire doors throughout (depending on your council) self closers on every door, a seperate consumer unit is a benefit, heating and so on. A dormer is more expensive but this can usually give you your head height for your stairs, an extra room or even a bathroom and the views can be superb.
No you don't your loft needs to be seperate to the rest of your house with a fire door. You could never have a corridor from a loft to your front door it wouldn't be worth doing and would be impossible in most If not every style house. If you have a fire in the loft you need to be able to shut it off with a door and escape out the house and the same if there is a fire in the house shut it off and escape out the loft.
I'm sure if the house was on fire you wouldn't be saying that lol this is one of the biggest sticklers when converting a loft, an escape route and I'm pretty sure they wouldn't drop it to make things easier and unsafer but I stopped converting lofts about six years ago so maybe they have changed but I doubt it.
So going off this your saying you could convert your loft without any windows and this would be fine?
What your saying is correct about habitable rooms but you also need what I said if what your saying was fact there would be a lot of people killed every year and the. It would be changed back. Who gave you the info?
The loft needs a fire door to it either at the top or the bottom if it's at the top it need a certain amount of space ie a small hallway this is where people struggle for space. If you have a gable the window there is ideal but if you need a velux it needs to be a certain distance from the gutter which looks stupid sometimes in the room and also because it is low to the ground it needs to be a certain type of velux that a young child couldn't open.
They told you you don't need an escape route from the loft?
Just had a read and a lot contradict themselves but in some councils they are saying a roof escape is not a safe means of escape which is correct but it is safer than having no escape. They have always required a a safe route out the house and some say an escape through a first floor window so another contradiction. I know what I would have in the loft and if I was to do one for a customer I would Deffo go with the escape route through the loft aswell as the house, a lot of councils differ and building inspectors differ but it's safe to go over the top with fire in mind.
If there was a fire down stairs how could you escape?
And every door is locked and you are awake once the fire starts lol if the whole of downstairs is on fire you ain't getting out if it starts in the early hours and your asleep in your new loft conversion
Lol I won't have to you might burn to death if you go ahead with your loft conversion
johniosaif
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Self closers have gone a few yrs now, I did a loft a few years ago 2010 and I didn't need fire doors as linked smoke and heat alarms sufficed,did one in 2013 and needed them,they all interpret the rules differently
johniosaif
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We used private b I the last time and found them easier to work with but they are strict with the rules, they make a maximum of three visits and then photos sent after that, found it easier than dancing with the council, everything is done online, PDF sent over and back all signed off..
Is he the only draftsman in the villageYep the chap is a draftsman I think does all the drawings in the village
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johniosaif
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Also the postman and pizza delivery guyIs he the only draftsman in the village
fastcar150
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My dad,mates daughter had her loft converted ten years ago and has just sold the house the new owner was moving in .
It cropped up that building control never got asked to do a final check to sign off work from ten years before,she had to have fire doors fitted to the two loft bedrooms( bungalow with dormer) literally as new owner was moving in to comply.
if your renewing all the ceilings below your attic with 12.5 mm plasterboard that used to be sufficient for fire protection,I,be seen us years ago having to fit chicken wire above old ceilings to support insulation so it carnt fall in a fire.
probably a couple rsjs will be needed to support larger floor joist for new floor area as you'll not want to floor entire attic area ,think you,ll need an rsj under ridge board to stop any spread added by extra load.
insulation used to be 75 mm between joists,with 50 mm below.we used to fit 2x2 across rafters at 90% always found it easier for fixing boards,continuous air gap maintained through ridge line.
It cropped up that building control never got asked to do a final check to sign off work from ten years before,she had to have fire doors fitted to the two loft bedrooms( bungalow with dormer) literally as new owner was moving in to comply.
if your renewing all the ceilings below your attic with 12.5 mm plasterboard that used to be sufficient for fire protection,I,be seen us years ago having to fit chicken wire above old ceilings to support insulation so it carnt fall in a fire.
probably a couple rsjs will be needed to support larger floor joist for new floor area as you'll not want to floor entire attic area ,think you,ll need an rsj under ridge board to stop any spread added by extra load.
insulation used to be 75 mm between joists,with 50 mm below.we used to fit 2x2 across rafters at 90% always found it easier for fixing boards,continuous air gap maintained through ridge line.
DannyMac
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Gigolo and cookholder also, his bases are well covered..
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