Bet you know all about nanotechnology
Which option should I go for?
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keithuk
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just a bit ,but now you say it s**t ,i will stop doing it ,your the manBet you know all about nanotechnology
The mortar was rock solid so dnt think we wud have probs there brickie must of used 1/1 of that f**k*r..i don't think 3-1 is as bad as people say like I said its still there from previous jobs..lots of things can go wrong in rendering..Il try get a pic of this mono job but its quite far from garden where we r wrking and my fones not the best..tbf there's loads of trees growing rite nxt to it but the mono renderer shud of explained to customer u shud c it its shocking
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Jubs nano is decent
Vincey
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True .. Using pva isn't the way to do things
IMO.
And it's Not needed on the inside either for some of us
Lol I did actually write that post before the two posts before it but once I posted it I saw them so see why you think it was aimed at them two posts. Xx mono looks s**t after a couple of years if your lucky, it has the s*x appeal as soon as it's done but it is not for this country full stop. It's like a card trick when it's done but once the sun starts shinning then the winter comes it really is s**t and has no advantage over sand and cement. This is nit a dig at mono coz I do it but more often than not I talk the customer out of having it because they think it is a lifetime guarantee and they will never need to worry about it.
Don't lyeTrue .. Using pva isn't the way to do things
IMO.
And it's Not needed on the inside either for some of us
keithuk
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Same as me ,i always say no render in the world last a life time ,and as for no need to paint thats s**t .we are on the same page on that ,but people do like the finish ,i do it all the time as you know ,just get pissed off with the mono is s**t all the time ,you may as well say all the machine guys on here are conmen !
Not really because mono is done by hand as well coz I don't own a machine, I think it looks s**t after a year, there is one by me that is less than two months old it's looks ok but when the sun shines on it it's shocking and that's down to the guys who applied it. I think it's mis sold on so many occasions and this is probably down to the fact it's going through a machine.
keithuk
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As you rightly say yes it can be done by hand ,but Weber Pral M is best by machine (the M means machine ) as for s**t work you get that with all work done by a bad tradesmen as you know mate
User___removed
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Mono goes on miles better with a machine
Oh I know it's the same as the weber pral AC (the ac means any c**t) lol every job I have been to and the customer is aware of mono, usually calling it k rend they have been filled with bullshit and usually off a website. I live in a leafy area and this s**t is no good for it also anywhere with a high volume of traffic the same.
The reason anyone who owns a machine will never give the alternative ie sand and cement
User___removed
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I probably spray more sand & cement than any other material
keithuk
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I respect its not for you and your customers ,think we will leave it there !lol, peace
Lol I agree it gives the customer instant satisfaction and done correct looks mint but it doesn't last ie the colour
Vincey
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I'm not the brainiest spread on here but can anyone tell me if I remember righty,I am sure I read somewhere that different render mix ratio and dash from 1800 - 1940s was decided by the location in the country and sometimes by which way facing the wall was I.e if it was going to get hammered by the weather.
Thanks Vince
Thanks Vince
we do give the render a quick once over with the float then spray the same day, spraying in sand and cement.
Every job is different
Same as but I rarely rub it up if ever
Whys that you recon?
We wud never get builders to fork out extra for materials for spraying as its miles more expensive..probably because we take all profit from Job
FreeD
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Grumpy as you can see it will be a lottery what mix you have and how it's applied. Go for a pre bagged render then at least you know the material is blended
I usually do 4-1-0.5 top before Tyrolean. Just put a dash in the tyrolean for good luck.
Everyone does it different, most plasterers don't give a f**k about mixes etc, they just slap it on, get paid. That's why I suggest going for a pre bagged, hopefully then theres less chance of failure, providing basic steps are followed.
I usually do 4-1-0.5 top before Tyrolean. Just put a dash in the tyrolean for good luck.
Everyone does it different, most plasterers don't give a f**k about mixes etc, they just slap it on, get paid. That's why I suggest going for a pre bagged, hopefully then theres less chance of failure, providing basic steps are followed.
Olican
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Always wet on dry , a wet mouth on a dry penis is better than a dry mouth on a wet penis and remember kids; Never belch when you Felch
keithuk
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you need help Oli !lol
User___removed
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I normally take a job on and supply all my materials anyhow
Getting told what material to use,no thanks
User___removed
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Mono is very popular down my way
I spray any materials but if they want sand & cement I'll Spray it with a decent pre bagged
It beats a 3/1 mix all day
stokeplasterer
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I was always told the top coat should be weaker than the scratch coat
User___removed
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How much render do you spray?
FreeD
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What do you think happens when you put CPI bagged render scratch then top? You don't buy different bags for the top coat do you? British standards say that render on top shouldn't be stronger than the scratch, but nothing wrong with the same mix, personally I think it's better to have the same mix top and bottom, than it's as one coat.
FreeD
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How long is a piece of string? What do you want total number of bags ever? per day? week? month?