£2 M2 Skimming, Would Ya?

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Hi chaps out of interest what is the lowest you would go down to on price for skimming? Not a bad job but not fantastic in large areas (some areas no good at all on price). No ceilings (susp ceiling 2.8 metres high) 20 mins travel.
 
lowest ive ever got was £1.50 and still earned between 800-1000 but between £2 an 3 is normal anyway
 
napper83 said:
lowest ive ever got was £1.50 and still earned between 800-1000 but between £2 an 3 is normal anyway
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£1.50 :o Jesus! And to still make 800-grand you must have lost some weight on that job? How many bags you putting on per hit? Per day? One coat?

Thing is with this job. There are a load of (10 ish) square columns approx 400 mm width each side to ceiling height. Gonna take 4 beads and worth about £8 each. Hassles! Not even making up the time/money on any massive areas elsewhere because there arnt any.
 
4 spreads a day most days and the walls were around 50mtrs each and no ceilings it was on worcester hospital years ago

firm i was with then payed £5 per side on colls an boxings

we were putting on around 25-30 bags a day between 2 of us it was horsework like but but its either that or take a reduction in your money really
 
Yep! Large 'ish' site so separate contractor doing the boarding. As it happens they were very good, some of the tidiest boarding I've seen for a long time didn't even have to get the surform out once. :D lol They even wrote 'SORRY' in pencil on the board when they made a mistake and patched a bit in so it needed extra scrimming. Nice blokes! As you can probably work out we have done a lot of the work already at this price but have f**k*d off as there is no movement on the price for the columns and other shitty bits. Thing is it's usually swings and roundabouts you make up the low price on the small time consuming areas when you get a good run on the large areas but have been none because one wall in the rooms was not ready etc so couldn't complete rooms and had to go back later for one wall, the usual s**t on site. Plus could have worked the columns in a bit at a time with the areas close to them but columns were not ready so would have to go back to that area just to do the columns. Taking the piss!

Was just interested in the lowest people were willing to go on skimmin?
 
clinton78 said:
Yep! Large 'ish' site so separate contractor doing the boarding. As it happens they were very good, some of the tidiest boarding I've seen for a long time didn't even have to get the surform out once. :D lol They even wrote 'SORRY' in pencil on the board when they made a mistake and patched a bit in so it needed extra scrimming. Nice blokes! As you can probably work out we have done a lot of the work already at this price but have (french word)ed off as there is no movement on the price for the columns and other (german word)ty bits. Thing is it's usually swings and roundabouts you make up the low price on the small time consuming areas when you get a good run on the large areas but have been none because one wall in the rooms was not ready etc so couldn't complete rooms and had to go back later for one wall, the usual (german word) on site. Plus could have worked the columns in a bit at a time with the areas close to them but columns were not ready so would have to go back to that area just to do the columns. Taking the (french word)!

Was just interested in the lowest people were willing to go on skimmin?
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i probably would have done it but i would have wanted day work rates for the snaging
 
Yeah we probably would have done for day work but when a firm is so stead fast unnegotiable. I'm not gonna get muggged off.
 
clinton78 said:
Yeah we probably would have done for day work but when a firm is so stead fast unnegotiable. I'm not gonna get muggged off.
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thats right mate, there is more than one firm around, all i will say is dont burn your bridges, best to leave on good terms. you never know if you will need to go back in the future or if they get a better job and you want to get on it. you know what am trying to say dont ya ;)
 
Yes mate I know what you mean ;) But our bridge is strengthened by the fact that we always leave a great job never leave anything and they send us to the jobs they need doing properly. They have a few fellas on the cards who have to have their work made good after. The firm just takes the piss really and we had enough em. The problem is they know that some c**t (EU) will always do it for them. That's how they get by and don't go under in times like this.
 
clinton78 said:
Yes mate I know what you mean ;) But our bridge is strengthened by the fact that we always leave a great job never leave anything and they send us to the jobs they need doing properly. They have a few fellas on the cards who have to have their work made good after. The firm just takes the (french word) really and we had enough em. The problem is they know that some (french person) (EU) will always do it for them. That's how they get by and don't go under in times like this.
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what are they called clint?
 
flynnyman said:
clinton78 said:
Yes mate I know what you mean ;) But our bridge is strengthened by the fact that we always leave a great job never leave anything and they send us to the jobs they need doing properly. They have a few fellas on the cards who have to have their work made good after. The firm just takes the (french word) really and we had enough em. The problem is they know that some (french person) (EU) will always do it for them. That's how they get by and don't go under in times like this.
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what are they called clint? SKINT!
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:D! Not so much skint. Just too many people on the cards that they cant sack, too many overheads, and too many surveyors driving round in brand new Mercs. ;)

And I'm fed up off paying for it all!
 
clinton78 said:
:D! Not so much skint. Just too many people on the cards that they cant sack, too many overheads, and too many surveyors driving round in brand new Mercs. ;)

And I'm fed up off paying for it all!
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just go private mate thats what i did then you tell them the price. ;D
 
Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture , get your foot in door do a decent job and see what comes of it, may more work better money bigger areas etc , in these days and times i think to have the" im not working for that attitude" is the wrong approach its all about building contacts not giving them away .
 
i did some columns on price they worked out at £12 each they were 3m high so i was up and down the scaf, we asked for £20 per column explained that they cant really be pulled in with the other work and they agreed to pay.
2 columns per hit
3 gauges
£120 for they day
you got to take what you can at the min mate their is always some1 else that will do it
 
Yeah done all that. You just can't negotiate with them on anything they live on a different planet. No other firm would have the audacity or even expect you do these things on price. We were even on a site once float & set but no windows were in so had to leave the window walls in every room. When the windows were eventually fitted they thought we were going to go back in every single room just to do the window walls on price! Two words second word ends in off! Thing is the mugs who plastered the floor above went back and did them on price. Not our fault the windows were not installed. So why should we lose money. 2nd time we have left now and each time the building firm has phoned them to say we do not want to lose these guys can't you sort them out so they don't leave but they still wont budge.
 
Tell them to f**k off and get some foriegn wankers to do it for next to nothing, then go to the pub and have yourself a few pints, something will show up always does.
 
Dont know what to say mate, i was refused £20 per/col, i have to ring the MD and explain that columns take time if you want them lookin good.
We had 12 on each floor 24 in total so it worked out ok for us but they were in offices bang in middle of the room draped in sunlight all day so any mark/ripple/scuff would show up and this perticular company dont pay for snagging.
We did'nt get paid for beading that took a good hour for 2 of us. Only after i told him this they agreed to pay us £20.
Try and get hold of the top boy and just tell him how it is, and that you cant make it pay AND do a spot on job. ask for £25 per column then drop it to £20 make out your doing him a favour
 
Bit late now gone already mate. But we did explain these things to them. The firms supervisor is an ex spread and knows the score, we explained situation, he agreed with us but bosses (not ex plasterers) will not budge on the matter. Glad to see the back of them. Moving in 2 weeks so time to help pack (missus heavely pregnant) so suits me till something else pops up.
 
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