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stuy said:
yep would agree there marshy mate you are finishing as you go!! not waiting round all day to either fine down or scrape back! dashing love it, as for the bloke who wants £140 a day cheeky bugger, but our trade is staring to split up sad, got some lime work to do and the firm has over 100 staff, 3 plasterers one can render and not good at skimming, and visversa!!!! and they cant dash, they wont take the flack if it goes wrong stuy
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There are always going to be areas in plastering which we prefer/better at than others? Me for example, I'm not a fan of dotting and dabbing but I do it because on some jobs you have to and I'm not very fast at it but the end job is right which is the main thing. Now give me any sand cement work to do internal or rendering? I'm as happy as a pig in sh*t and can fair shift at it too. But its not like some of these lads who just can't render or skim or plasterboard etc? I don't get it and think they must not have done any college and just picked it up?? :RpS_confused:
 
Old firm I use to sub for sometimes had 100+ lads on for them yet everytime there was any float and set or external s&c it was always the same 5 or 6 of us sent there. Youd think with 90 odd lads who could only skim would mean decent rates were paid to the few who could do it all, but nope the rates were sh1te. Probably why alot of these lads dont want to know. Or just play along at being uesless.
 
scottie5 said:
Old firm I use to sub for sometimes had 100+ lads on for them yet everytime there was any float and set or external s&c it was always the same 5 or 6 of us sent there. Youd think with 90 odd lads who could only skim would mean decent rates were paid to the few who could do it all, but nope the rates were sh1te. Probably why alot of these lads dont want to know. Or just play along at being uesless.
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I'm good at playing "useless" just ask my missus :RpS_lol:
 
horses for courses, Id be painfully slow at skimming these days because I never do it.
what some lads are missing the point is there are so many different aspects to the trade these days, certainly since I did my time, and times move on especially with rendering. we had sand cement when I did my apprenticeship, now theres mono work, ewi, acrylics, mineral renders etc plus sand cement and dashing.
the point being, theres nothing wrong with specialising in one area of the trade if you are good at what you,
you still call yourself a plasterer/renderer.
 
owls said:
horses for courses, Id be painfully slow at skimming these days because I never do it.
what some lads are missing the point is there are so many different aspects to the trade these days, certainly since I did my time, and times move on especially with rendering. we had sand cement when I did my apprenticeship, now theres mono work, ewi, acrylics, mineral renders etc plus sand cement and dashing.
the point being, theres nothing wrong with specialising in one area of the trade if you are good at what you,
you still call yourself a plasterer/renderer.
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My point was a lot of lads in the game now havnt been trained properly otherwise they would be able to render skim pebbledash etc?? Maybe its just me?? Nothing wrong in specialising in a particular area of your trade :RpS_thumbup:
 
As said this trade is fragmented. Gone have the days of the plastering contractor. And as said if you are an apprentice to someone who can do it all like me then they are onto a winner although they will not realise it. I worked for a plastering contractor and did everything. Solid, fibrous, screeding, rendering. Useless at training though, good job I listened and observed.

My next trainee if I get one will have to be on the ball. No more dreamers or to thick to learn how to dash. My next will learn dashing first then spreading. The only lad I did manage to train learnt that way. He did come from a family of plasterers though and was a star, Had him for 8 years. Only in the last year did he get fed up. Now he is richer than me and doing well for himself. A labourer who I trained up is also done well for himself. A main Wetherby contractor working all over the Country.

Quite a few out there who came as nothing and now doing well for themselves thanks to me.
 
im like you marshy been taught to do every thing, but i must admit i do try and avoid screeding as much as possible the days,,,,,, not as young as i used to be
 
The skill sets are definitely being watered down as the years go by, you have the chancers being taught by coursers and the self taught frauding there way through life making it up as they go along. Couple of boarders we follow are a good example pretty neat and tidy on anything straightforward, and simple.
but every time they come up against something that needs a bit of savvy to overcome they're knackered, cause they've never been taught. And I think thats the definition of a tradesman is the ability to overcome any problems that arise with little fuss or drama.
 
Rigsby said:
As said this trade is fragmented. Gone have the days of the plastering contractor. And as said if you are an apprentice to someone who can do it all like me then they are onto a winner although they will not realise it. I worked for a plastering contractor and did everything. Solid, fibrous, screeding, rendering. Useless at training though, good job I listened and observed.

My next trainee if I get one will have to be on the ball. No more dreamers or to thick to learn how to dash. My next will learn dashing first then spreading. The only lad I did manage to train learnt that way. He did come from a family of plasterers though and was a star, Had him for 8 years. Only in the last year did he get fed up. Now he is richer than me and doing well for himself. A labourer who I trained up is also done well for himself. A main Wetherby contractor working all over the Country.

Quite a few out there who came as nothing and now doing well for themselves thanks to me.
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Giz a job Rigsby go on I can do dat, giz a job :RpS_thumbup:
 
leebo02 said:
im like you marshy been taught to do every thing, but i must admit i do try and avoid screeding as much as possible the days,,,,,, not as young as i used to be
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Ahmen to that, last screening I did was in Der Vaterland in the 90's and I do believe because of it I'm still being searched for by der polizei :RpS_thumbsup:

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Rigsby said:
Yosser sorted shake hands out. Classic!
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That was a funeral episode wasn't it?? I was a bit young when I watched it but loved Yossers headbutting usually when he got sacked from doing whatever having his kids labour on him lol :RpS_laugh:
 
Rigsby said:
As said this trade is fragmented. Gone have the days of the plastering contractor. And as said if you are an apprentice to someone who can do it all like me then they are onto a winner although they will not realise it. I worked for a plastering contractor and did everything. Solid, fibrous, screeding, rendering. Useless at training though, good job I listened and observed.

My next trainee if I get one will have to be on the ball. No more dreamers or to thick to learn how to dash. My next will learn dashing first then spreading. The only lad I did manage to train learnt that way. He did come from a family of plasterers though and was a star, Had him for 8 years. Only in the last year did he get fed up. Now he is richer than me and doing well for himself. A labourer who I trained up is also done well for himself. A main Wetherby contractor working all over the Country.

Quite a few out there who came as nothing and now doing well for themselves thanks to me.
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Find the hardest part of dry dash is remembering not to put the chips on upside down or even worse inside out.:RpS_confused:
 
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