Ohhhhhhh
s**t just got real
I'm sure I've worked on properties with that type of cove not cornice on old plasterboard.Surely if your place was built in 1932 and if the cornice was run in situ then your ceiling would be traditional lath and plaster not plasterboard as you stated?
You just don't smell right to me has been my point all along and if the work is bad the tradesman deserves the right to rectify and get paid
It'll come off like a whores knickers.Find the roughest section and put wall paper steamer on it. You'll soon know if it's going to delaminate.
Find the roughest section and put wall paper steamer on it. You'll soon know if it's going to delaminate.
I'm no historian of buliding techniques, but I've been suprised when a property with lath walls doesn't have a lath cieling. I'm sure older guys than me would know the score.
Do you think the paper could still be removed? I’ve spoken to several plasterers today about scrapping the plaster off and starting again. None of them have been clear if this is possible, but I’m wondering if it’s more to do with them not wanting to do it. If it’s possible though, I would do it myself.
My thinking is there is a layer of thick paper between the new plaster and the old, so they can’t be bonded. Am I wrong here?
I'm no historian of buliding techniques, but I've been suprised when a property with lath walls doesn't have a lath cieling. I'm sure older guys than me would know the score.
Do you think the paper could still be removed? I’ve spoken to several plasterers today about scrapping the plaster off and starting again. None of them have been clear if this is possible, but I’m wondering if it’s more to do with them not wanting to do it. If it’s possible though, I would do it myself.
My thinking is there is a layer of thick paper between the new plaster and the old, so they can’t be bonded. Am I wrong here?
Ive never plastered over paper ....even small bits left peel away.
If it hasnt come down yet take a paint scraper to it.
If its solid you should just paint it.
If your sat there worried about it ....rip it all down and re board it.
This is really your only option.
Ive never plastered over paper ....even small bits left peel away.
If it hasnt come down yet take a paint scraper to it.
If its solid you should just paint it.
If your sat there worried about it ....rip it all down and re board it.
This is really your only option.
If your not happy and can't live with it your just going to have to bite the bullet and get it re-done. No fannying about make a decision.My internal walls are all solid brick and concrete. It was a high end property when it was built with Crittal windows, wood strip floors etc...
Yes and no. The answer is, know one knows. It could be stuck like s**t to a blanket, it could crack off and end up on the floor the next time the upstairs neighbours get jiggy with it.
If you fear it could end up on the floor (which I feel is your main worry) then the only option is to try stripping it to see if it comes off easily. If it does come away from the paper easily, then keep stripping back to the paper (carefully), then strip the paper off by hand by just perforating and soaking.
If it does seem well stuck, then, you've either got to get it re-skimmed or make good with filling and sanding.
OK. The plasterer who did the survey said it was well bonded. With that in mind a skim to fix the finish issue could work then.
Thanks for the mention but no thank you
This is just getting silly now!
The best option is underboard with a stop bead around perimeter done properley they look class.
All other options are just daft!
I also wouldnt give the plasterer time of day hes lost your respect and rightly so.
BUT JUST TO ADD THE SURVEY GUY IS ALSO MENTAL SAYING THAT THE BOND IS OK BLA BLA BLA. HES JUST HAD 40 QUID FOR NOTHING AND GIVEN STUPID ADVICE!
THREAD CLOSED, THANK YOU!!!!
Final comment is what everyone seems to be missing is that paper or no paper you should NEVER NEVER skim direct to old lat & lathe ceilings anyway.
Which has baffled me even more with your stupid survey man!
It’s not lat&lathe it is plasterboard.
Your reliance on paint to determine the quality of plaster finish disturbs me.You haven't painted it so don't know....it's the equivelant of saying I'm not paying because the door doesn't shut without testing if the door shuts
The plasterers in question have skimmed over paper, any tradesman worth his salt would know that this is not the correct way to do things and would of told the customer the best options ie overboard or more time to remove paper . Anyone who says that they could not get the paper off so skimmed it anyway need to hand in there tools at the nearest police station imo. You seem to be focused on the finish problem rather than the rel issue of skimming over lining paper.You just don't smell right to me and my point has been all along if the work is bad the tradesman deserves the right to rectify and get paid
Lol you know what I'm saying if it paints ok no problem....i definitely never said it was a good job just the blokes so should be given the opportunity to get paidYour reliance on paint to determine the quality of plaster finish disturbs me.