Ashlar bands and quoins

[User___removed]

I have started a job with v ashlar bands and quoins.
The depth of the v when cutting out will be minimum 15mm.would it be better to try and achieve this in 2 passes or one heavy coat?
Hand applying the materials with traditional s&c.
Your thoughts please guys

Cheers

 

[warriorupnorth]

Two passes whilst still green in my imo

 

[warriorupnorth]

And some sbr in the mix

 

[church]

all ways two passes for me using s&c

 

[JamieMac]

Same as already said 2 passes with traditional sc

 

[raytheplasterer]

scratch first before nailing lats?

 

[raytheplasterer]

rendering gang I used to labour for years ago used do scratch coat, nail lats, fill the quoins first( 1 heavy coat) take them off next day and top the rest.

 

[Gibbo]

Why would you use lats?

 

[raytheplasterer]

you can get v shaped lats.

 

[church]

what are lats guys ?

 

[raytheplasterer]

the timber you nail on to form your quoins, tbh I not heard of ashlar band, presume they're the reasonably deep horizontal groves across the span of some renders, although they never used do those, only the quoinstones.

 

[Gibbo]

Cut by hand is easier and a better job

 

[Gibbo]

what are lats guys ?

battens lats is northern gobbledeegook

 

[raytheplasterer]

Cut by hand is easier and a better job

be very difficult to do in s/c I would imagine, these are proper 3d quoinstones I mean, not the poor mans version that are flat.

 

[Gibbo]

Not difficult at all mate you seen the quoins stone vid

 

[Gibbo]

Same with bands cut by hand no battens

 

[raytheplasterer]

No, I haven't tbh , wouldn't imagine it was possible, not using s/c, I'll have a look,

 

[raytheplasterer]

bands maybe, not quoins.

 

[raggles]

 

[raytheplasterer]

not everyone would have a steady a hand as that fella :RpS_laugh:

 

[Rigsby]

I think at that thickness I would use Webers ocr.

 

[User___removed]

Cheers for the replays.will be cutting out bands and quoins by hand.have a quoin cutter from refina for the bands and will be cutting quoins with a small edge as in vid on here.
Will post pics when the cutting starts!!!!

 

[User___removed]

@warriorupnorth would there be suction issue's with sbr in the mix?
I want to get in on and rub up early to have plenty of time for cutting out

 

[warriorupnorth]

Only if used in the base coat , I'd use it in top mix just to reduce the water in the mix ,improve workability and reduce risk of cracking as well as increase the strength of the bond

 

[stuy]

ramboo tools ireland do a quoin cutter, look for it on e bay i got one used a couple of time looks tidy and gives a consistant depth and width of quoins just a thought stuy

 

[raytheplasterer]

how are you going to do the return if you do it freehand using no battens?

 

[Gibbo]

@warriorupnorth would there be suction issue's with sbr in the mix?
I want to get in on and rub up early to have plenty of time for cutting out

Use some driers

 

[Gibbo]

By holding a straight edge up ray like the guy in the vid has done