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After that last thread "How many trowels" it would seem that we all seem to do something different during our sets and by our own admissions all seem to think that we produce good results. So I guess either there's a pole apart in our understanding of quality or perhaps just maybe with right application there really is some seemingly shortcuts that don't always effect quality.

To me bad habits rightly or wrongly are

1) Not flattening first coat ( don't care who you are or how good you are there's got to be slight lines or undulations/ridges etc. Which surely if a walls picked up before topping will show or if your able to flatten in/press in with 2nd coat must mean your topping to early???

2) Using the same mix for both coats unless on a real high suction background so it acts like a fresh 2nd or surely its just 1 coating and on a low suction background will make it smudge when you come to trowel up etc???

3) Adding water to mix left from first coat to use for 2nd or even knocking the 2nd coat mix up at the same time as the 1st but in a separate tub but really really wet and leaving it to firm for when you need to 2nd coat to apply as a 2nd coat....surely this flashes???

90% of my work is re-skims and would be curious how often people use these methods on multiple backgrounds?

Zombie
 
Right then!

After that last thread "How many trowels" it would seem that we all seem to do something different during our sets and by our own admissions all seem to think that we produce good results. So I guess either there's a pole apart in our understanding of quality or perhaps just maybe with right application there really is some seemingly shortcuts that don't always effect quality.

To me bad habits rightly or wrongly are

1) Not flattening first coat ( don't care who you are or how good you are there's got to be slight lines or undulations/ridges etc. Which surely if a walls picked up before topping will show or if your able to flatten in/press in with 2nd coat must mean your topping to early???

2) Using the same mix for both coats unless on a real high suction background so it acts like a fresh 2nd or surely its just 1 coating and on a low suction background will make it smudge when you come to trowel up etc???

3) Adding water to mix left from first coat to use for 2nd or even knocking the 2nd coat mix up at the same time as the 1st but in a separate tub but really really wet and leaving it to firm for when you need to 2nd coat to apply as a 2nd coat....surely this flashes???

90% of my work is re-skims and would be curious how often people use these methods on multiple backgrounds?

Zombie
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After the " how many trowels"thread....:rolleyes)..i feel another sore head coming on:RpS_crying:
 
As long as the end result is ok who really gives a one cos ultimately all that matters is the result and getting paid of course :RpS_thumbup:
 
Well im guilty of 1 and 2 and my finish is spot on, personally i think its less to do with how you get it on, and more to do with what you do with it once it is on.
 
Quality is subjective. One mans quality work is another mans rough. Everyone's method is what sees them through their day to get their own finish they regard as satisfactory. People's methods will reflect their own standard so these methods will vary. Too open ended these threads.
 
Skim always looks the same when it's painted regardless how many trowels r coats u give it. The trick is to have nice straight clean lines.:RpS_wink:
 
If you have a bit left from first coat and its still soft? I knock it up with whatever I need to second coat. I am aware it can make the second coat go off quicker? But I'm pretty quick and never had a problem? I think if we're honest we all have bent plastering "rules" at some stage? So long as the end result is spot on and customer is happy and pays up? Doesn't matter does it??
 
Im guilty of 1 and it is flat enough that i dont need to flatten in, years of experiance gets you there, and maybe like some others i do knock up whats left in to my next mix( i dont like waste, waste is money down the drain) i recently work with another chap who chucked half his mix in the skip every time he layed on, that would drive me nuts if i was paying for the gear.
 
Im guilty of 1 and it is flat enough that i dont need to flatten in, years of experiance gets you there, and maybe like some others i do knock up whats left in to my next mix( i dont like waste, waste is money down the drain) i recently work with another chap who chucked half his mix in the skip every time he layed on, that would drive me nuts if i was paying for the gear.

But this is what I don't get buddy surely if that batch is going off its going to smudge/pull the 1st coat about if re-applied apposed to a fresh wet mix which will sit onto the first coat without affecting it like???
 
But this is what I don't get buddy surely if that batch is going off its going to smudge/pull the 1st coat about if re-applied apposed to a fresh wet mix which will sit onto the first coat without affecting it like???

I doesnt affect it like that, it knock up with the fresh gear, as good as a brand new mix, just sends it off quicker cus the stuff has been going a little while.
 
I doesnt affect it like that, it knock up with the fresh gear, as good as a brand new mix, just sends it off quicker cus the stuff has been going a little while.

Well **** me I genuinely never knew that mate!!!!

Jesus!!! I must have thrown boody pallets away over the years!!!!

So basically you just scrape the sides add additional water and powder to whats left of your 1st coats mix and away you go John that's your 2nd coat mix sorted???:RpS_thumbup:
 
Well **** me I genuinely never knew that mate!!!!

Jesus!!! I must have thrown boody pallets away over the years!!!!

So basically you just scrape the sides add additional water and powder to whats left of your 1st coats mix and away you go John that's your 2nd coat mix sorted???:RpS_thumbup:

Yeah.

But i don't really do it, i normally mix right amount for first so dont have any left. and i dont normally want 2nd coat setting so quick...

Its job dependant.
 
Well im guilty of 1 and 2 and my finish is spot on, personally i think its less to do with how you get it on, and more to do with what you do with it once it is on.
your right there scottie,, and what they class as a good finish,, ive seen spreads walk away leaving walls rough as a bag as nails, but they have been proud as punch, they must have low standards or bad eye sieght
 
Yeah.

But i don't really do it, i normally mix right amount for first so dont have any left. and i dont normally want 2nd coat setting so quick...

Its job dependant.

Well **** me!!! Think ive always just assumed that it would flash like:RpS_thumbup:
 
Oh ... No no gear from first mix in the 2nd, don't go off like if you used dirty water. Not that quick.
 
well thats skimming sorted out! what additive do you spreads use to advance the setting time on lime mortar render?
 
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