Big jobs vs small jobs

[essexandy]

Just lately I've priced a couple of small jobs £250 here £400 there, spent over an hour going to look at the jobs then price them up, people want the jobs done for nothing and you then spend another hour running around getting the materials for a days work or two..... or go see a builder convince him to let you price the job, spend an hour pricing up of plans, he accepts a decent price because he has checked out your other work, you spend ten minutes on the phone ordering materials and you are all done for up to three weeks work. No competition in my mind, I don't know how you guys do all that domestic work.

 

[church]

I tend to do a little bit of everything small sites /builders work/ domestic work and subbing , it all fills the year in mate and i think the saying goes, is that a change is as good as a rest , having said that none of them will get me a aston martin but i dont really care that much.

 

[gps]

because of the money andy. On domestic work I earn double what I would otherwise on site for less work aswell.

 

[Gibbo]

i just done a big job

 

[warriorupnorth]

Steamin ???

 

[Pug]

I tend to do a little bit of everything small sites /builders work/ domestic work and subbing , it all fills the year in mate and i think the saying goes, is that a change is as good as a rest , having said that none of them will get me a aston martin but i dont really care that much.

same as....

 

[spunkybum]

I tend to do a little bit of everything small sites /builders work/ domestic work and subbing , it all fills the year in mate and i think the saying goes, is that a change is as good as a rest , having said that none of them will get me a aston martin but i dont really care that much.

100 million percent agree .........but i still hate domestic work

 

[church]

I tend to do a little bit of everything small sites /builders work/ domestic work and subbing , it all fills the year in mate and i think the saying goes, is that a change is as good as a rest , having said that none of them will get me a aston martin but i dont really care that much.

100 million percent agree .........but i still hate domestic work

What about skimming ceilings in an all girls college for apprentice glamour models ???

 

[spunkybum]

church ..........im a married man ;D

 

[church]

lol.... how would you price work like that , by the tissue or linear toilet roll

 

[spunkybum]

;D ;D ;D......you wouldnt hear ' i want three pound a metre mate'

 

[Pug]

i'd pay £3 per m2 to land that job

 

[oasis]

i hate working off plans as most of the time they are crap. i cant worki out if its a house or a shed?lol

 

[hollybank]

prefer to do the small jobs as regards to big ones \as can earn more money instead of being in the same place week in week out

 

[bodplasterer]

I have been doing both at the moment and being so skint i am prefering the domestic as you get paid straight up after you finish and all the larger jobs we are doing got a 30 day wait on our invoice F**king nightmare and then you dont know if the cheques gonna clear

 

[spunkybum]

i hate working off plans as most of the time they are crap. i cant worki out if its a house or a shed?lol

;D ;D ;D

 

[spunkybum]

because of the money andy. On domestic work I earn double what I would otherwise on site for less work aswell.

gps hand on heart are you the type that turns up on site does 4 buckets and moans you havent earnt 200 quid cause the prices are a bit err tight

 

[essexandy]

because of the money andy. On domestic work I earn double what I would otherwise on site for less work aswell.

gps hand on heart are you the type that turns up on site does 4 buckets and moans you havent earnt 200 quid cause the prices are a bit err tight

i hate working off plans as most of the time they are crap. i cant worki out if its a house or a shed?lol

I'm not as fast as I used to be but can still set 70 to 80 metres of ceilings a day and consider that to be good money and I don't have to worry where to put the dirty water. If you work 232 days a year and earn £200 a day that's £46,400 a year, do many of you domestic lads honestly earn double that a year?
You must have been very unlucky with those plans Oasis, I've never had a set for a house that I thought were for a shed.

 

[oasis]

because of the money andy. On domestic work I earn double what I would otherwise on site for less work aswell.

gps hand on heart are you the type that turns up on site does 4 buckets and moans you havent earnt 200 quid cause the prices are a bit err tight

i hate working off plans as most of the time they are crap. i cant worki out if its a house or a shed?lol

I'm not as fast as I used to be but can still set 70 to 80 metres of ceilings a day and consider that to be good money and I don't have to worry where to put the dirty water. If you work 232 days a year and earn £200 a day that's £46,400 a year, do many of you domestic lads honestly earn double that a year?
You must have been very unlucky with those plans Oasis, I've never had a set for a house that I thought were for a shed.

Twas a joke me firend, but yea i do find some vague plans hard to understand im 22 not 42

just got some new plans and even the builder im working for said he dnt no what they are building?

ah just add £5000 on top should all be ok

 

[gps]

because of the money andy. On domestic work I earn double what I would otherwise on site for less work aswell.

gps hand on heart are you the type that turns up on site does 4 buckets and moans you havent earnt 200 quid cause the prices are a bit err tight

i hate working off plans as most of the time they are crap. i cant worki out if its a house or a shed?lol

I'm not as fast as I used to be but can still set 70 to 80 metres of ceilings a day and consider that to be good money and I don't have to worry where to put the dirty water. If you work 232 days a year and earn £200 a day that's £46,400 a year, do many of you domestic lads honestly earn double that a year?
You must have been very unlucky with those plans Oasis, I've never had a set for a house that I thought were for a shed.

Andy I doubt you could consistantly earn 200 a day on site if your honest you will agree. I dont earn 90,000 a year your right.

 

[Gibbo]

best i have earnt in a year onsite was 56'000 grand

 

[simplybesty]

pricing, just had to price a job worth 75k so i got someone outside to price it off the plans. beleive me , yo get those jobs wrong and you loose your house. give me a nice £500 ceiling to reskim for a day .

 

[spunky]

gps have you seen andys work?.........its a bit more than the average reskim ???

 

[warriorupnorth]

Where's the love gone fella's :

 

[essexandy]

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Andy I doubt you could consistently earn 200 a day on site if your honest you will agree. I dont earn 90,000 a year your right.
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I bet any lads on here that do regular site work can skim three 3m X 3m rooms without knocking themselves out day in day out that's 86.4sq.m. on the walls, now multiply that by £2.50 sq.m. that comes to £216.
Lay 50sq.m. of screed a day @ £4 sq.m. = £200.
How about rendering say 25sq.m. a day @ £10 = £250.
Float & set 50sq.m. with hardwall @ £4.50 sq.m. = £225
None of the above sq.m. are on the high side of what site plasterers do a day and none of the £ per sq.m. are high.

 

[oasis]

would u do a 3mx3m board road ceiling 4 walls and window on ur one in a day (with out tit'in about it)

if you had a lab sounds nice and easy if you set up but on ya own that 6 mixed of skim still hard days work need ta have the ceiling on at 8am at least to make it an easy day hey.imo

 

[essexandy]

would u do a 3mx3m board road ceiling 4 walls and window on ur one in a day (with out tit'in about it)

if you had a lab sounds nice and easy if you set up but on ya own that 6 mixed of skim still hard days work need ta have the ceiling on at 8am at least to make it an easy day hey.imo

On site I would work through all the ceilings on each floor at the least or right through the house before turning back to do the walls. I usually do three sets a day and a 3mx3m room as an example would be a comfortable amount, although I don't usually put whole rooms on at a time preferring to work opposites, some sets end up being smaller than a 3mx3m room but others end up being considerably larger and that's without a labourer, with a labourer obviously more can be put on. I find working opposites less restrictive than internals, if you put 4 walls on and you can tell they won't be ready to trowel up you can put on another 1 or 2 walls giving them more time to pick up.

 

[gps]

Andy I doubt you could consistently earn 200 a day on site if your honest you will agree. I dont earn 90,000 a year your right.
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I bet any lads on here that do regular site work can skim three 3m X 3m rooms without knocking themselves out day in day out that's 86.4sq.m. on the walls, now multiply that by £2.50 sq.m. that comes to £216.
Lay 50sq.m. of screed a day @ £4 sq.m. = £200.
How about rendering say 25sq.m. a day @ £10 = £250.
Float & set 50sq.m. with hardwall @ £4.50 sq.m. = £225
None of the above sq.m. are on the high side of what site plasterers do a day and none of the £ per sq.m. are high.
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Andy your not telling me you do 90m2 on your own without a labourer are you? if you are id like to speak to the making good man who comes in after you.

 

[essexandy]

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Andy your not telling me you do 90m2 on your own without a labourer are you? if you are id like to speak to the making good man who comes in after you.
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Well to be honest having just had six months off and having piled the weight on (to much beer and fishing food) I would struggle at the moment but once I get back into it and get the weight off then yes I will be back doing that sort of metreage again I'm sure. Covering that sort of metreage is all about organisation and method as well as speed of hand. As for the making good man behind me, well there isn't one, I don't come on here to blow my own trumpet but I have over twenty NHBC Pride in the Job certificates where my work has been inspected on a regular basis, references from builders, decorators, site agents and the NHBC.

 

[Chris W]

oasis, next time you cop a 3x3 prep the whole lot, mix up enough for the lid and 2 small walls...
stick yer beads on the window wall first (2 long walls, next set), chuck your ceiling on then have another wall straight off, then another if youve mixed enough...
flatten that lot and mix 1/2 again and top it all off..
when it firms up 2nd coat, run your corner trowel down the corners, flatten the lot and give it 2 trowels...
leaves you wth one easy set, beaded up and based out ready...
2 easy sets mate..

your problem is you panic, ive never seen you work but i know for a fact you flatten off too early where you could have had another wall or two...

 

[del]

andys right about site work, if you know what you are doing you will do 3 rooms a day. you have to, to make it pay, with a labourer who can do a bit as well.

 

[oasis]

chris iif its a boarded room i will put the lid on and the 2 walls each end, but yea maybe i do flatten off quite quick as i like 2 be on the safe side plus is soo much easier to do so soon,i hate it when it goes off a bit and im rushin,just like to keep it all in hand and ni wot im doing will turn out well. i hate doing a job thinking this will look pooh! but yea i guess id do them rooms in 2 sets, if its any bigger ceiling i will just hit that with the window then finish off with 2 easy sets..

 

[Chris W]

if you let the plaster pull in to where it should be before you flatten it then the finish will be better cos all your doing by flattening it when its wet is pushing it round the surface..
i taught a lad once, had him trowelling up with me for a bit then i gave him a tiny little 2m ceiling to do on his own..
kept popping back every 2 minutes going 'dunno why, i just cant seem to get it flat'..
went and had a look and it was p'ss wet... go and do something else for 10 minutes and then try it...

 

[skimmin2day]

With a lab 3 rooms a day with ceilings possible on boards with 10 hour day but not every day as it would kill ya?
Without a lab 3 rooms and ceilings a day a pipe dream 2 at most and that would hurt ya and you couldnt do it day in day out.
I just come back of holiday yesterday after a 3 week break in malta so takin it a little slowly today but layed on 2 ceilings and 3 walls and all beaded up ready for tommorow in 7 and a 1/2 hours work+1 hour getting materials on my own.Could have at a push put on 2 more walls maybe if i had no lunch skipped a s**t break and cut the fag breaks in half.About 60m2 in total this was over skim apart form ceilings.

 

[oasis]

3 rooms a day? wot u doing a room hit?