Your saying how can we tell the plasterer wasn’t at fault if we don’t know him. If he has used scrim tape on all the joins what other arsenal would he have in his van that would stop a ceiling cracking? I over boarded all the ceilings in my house and have had cracks come back through on the exact same places. Houses move and plaster doesn’t
Thanks!
Well so long as he scrimmed the joints properly then he's obviously not at fault.....
Boarding is not shite no more than dentistry is shite or sailing is shite.
I don't like it. We don't have to do it. Seperate boarders or joiners normally do it. I don't care, your opinion means nothing to me
Also I don't remember saying I couldn't board. I said I didn't. I don't like it, I have no wish to do it. I won't do it if someone else will do it.
600mm centres is to far apart for any fkin boardGood evening, wondering if I could pick your collective brains please?
I have recently purchased a house that needed a full renovation. The ceilings were artex and in a bad way (looks like the central heating guy had put his foot through a few of them when trying to fit the new system a couple of years prior and there was some water damage). I decided to rip them all down and start again.
it is a bungalow and the roof trusses are 600mm centres so I put up new 12.5mm plasterboard, what I didnt do though was install noggins (I have read that 600 centres is fine with 12.5mm board - though it seems there are ongoing debates about that within the trade). The plasterer came in and skimmed 4 of my ceilings, however a few days later when dried I noticed some cracks where the joints were. Now I am 99% sure he scrimmed them and 2 coats were used however nasty cracks have formed in all rooms in places.
Situation is that the plaster refuses to accept that he could be at fault etc etc but that aside my solution currently (unless anyone else has suggestions) is to spend this weekend installing noggins then to have the ceilings all reskimmed. My plan is as follows:
1) pop up into loft and look down so I can see the joints in the plasterboard.
2) install noggins using 38 x 58 CLS by placing over the joints and screwing into the trusses
3) make small pilot holes in a few places to the side of the noggins so I can see where they are from below
4) use these hols as a guide to fire a lot of screws through the plastered board into the noggins
5) get the ceilings reskimmed (which the joints being rescrimmed again (using the new screws as a guide)
does this sound like a sensible approach or am I missed something? Also will it need 2 new coats (making it 4 total)?
Cheers
Always 600 centres pal on downstairs ceilings in new builds nowadays,there say just use 15mm boards,even walls I'd say 50% of time depending which house builder are 600 centres aswell
I wouldn't know..... never worked on a site in 34 years in trade
Yep standard practice is 600 centres it's the norm.the reason his boards have sagged because he used 12.5mm boards as theres a massive difference..but hes a cock so I'm not bothered
You can put noggins everywhere, if it’s gonna crack it will crack whatever you do, I have a method but it’s a trade secret that eliminates 90% of cracking if not 99%
you must say to mrs.cerealuk,i am so pleased i went on that plasterers forum,right from the start intresting positive comments , all good and very helpful those lads,sign off from here ,go back to work on the ceiling a smile,a whistle,perhaps a little song as you work,.....no no ,no need to thank us cerealuk just doing our jobs,now turn this horse around hector and ride off into the sunset
no no /just my sense of humour,tad different from mainstream,
p.s. well done for sticking with this forum for so long,just banter but you have a dry sense of humour,goes well on here,..........so anyhooooooooooo what was your question
If it’s 600 centres u need 15mm ceiling board to stop the sag, I’d say it’s your fault, phone your plasterer back up and apologiesGood evening, wondering if I could pick your collective brains please?
I have recently purchased a house that needed a full renovation. The ceilings were artex and in a bad way (looks like the central heating guy had put his foot through a few of them when trying to fit the new system a couple of years prior and there was some water damage). I decided to rip them all down and start again.
it is a bungalow and the roof trusses are 600mm centres so I put up new 12.5mm plasterboard, what I didnt do though was install noggins (I have read that 600 centres is fine with 12.5mm board - though it seems there are ongoing debates about that within the trade). The plasterer came in and skimmed 4 of my ceilings, however a few days later when dried I noticed some cracks where the joints were. Now I am 99% sure he scrimmed them and 2 coats were used however nasty cracks have formed in all rooms in places.
Situation is that the plaster refuses to accept that he could be at fault etc etc but that aside my solution currently (unless anyone else has suggestions) is to spend this weekend installing noggins then to have the ceilings all reskimmed. My plan is as follows:
1) pop up into loft and look down so I can see the joints in the plasterboard.
2) install noggins using 38 x 58 CLS by placing over the joints and screwing into the trusses
3) make small pilot holes in a few places to the side of the noggins so I can see where they are from below
4) use these hols as a guide to fire a lot of screws through the plastered board into the noggins
5) get the ceilings reskimmed (which the joints being rescrimmed again (using the new screws as a guide)
does this sound like a sensible approach or am I missed something? Also will it need 2 new coats (making it 4 total)?
Cheers
Get some pics up
Its all good, i give s**t so expect it back lol. Think ive manage to sift through the sassyness and take something useful away from it all so am working through it now. Have been putting noggins in from above carefully, once done ill chuck the insulation back up and will fill and sand the cracks.. if fill and sand fixes then great.. if not then i have noggins to drill into before a replaster as a plan B. Anything to avoid shifting insulation more than i have to.. nasty s**t.
I never blamed the plasterer... i paid the guy same day and said "s**t happens lets figure it out" and left it at that...
