Bloody misses again

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NOt her in door lads she is behaving tonite

No even after plastering occasionally for 4 yrs my main piss off is little misses in my skim. Im talking little tiny ones about 1cm square in parts.

At first i was using fat to fill in the hollows when trowelling up and u lads put me right. So on trowelling up i use new gear to fill in. Problem is i am still finding little misses even when on final trowelling stages. I usually put fresh gear over the miss and leave it to hang for a couple of minutes then trowell up again. Problem is when the wall is starting to dry it dosent seem to like new gear going on the wall and will occasionally start tearing a little.

I dont go mad with water too early in the set. Even tried a spongefloat today but that just seemed iffy.

Really annoys me as practise over the years does not seem to be able for me to find a fix for the problem.

Any ideas lads?

THanks
 
I wouldn't beat yourself up about it. We all get a few here and there. Plastering is not an exact science, but have you tried using a halogen light? Put it on when you're trowelling in your second coat and i guarantee you'll have fewer (if any) misses.
 
i hate plastering with halogen lights, they throw too many shadows for my liking, and they melt your water bucket if too close. and burn anything that comes close to em. and the bulbs always blow if a stray bit of water goes within 3 feet of em, apart from they are ok lol
 
Im with Casper, hallogen allways , i alaways drop down a size in the bulbs, had 1 in there for over 3 years now.Try adjusting ya pressure, or angle.
 
i use halagens too (some twin headed & single)

never get both working at once --always 1 bulb gone

working in an empty house ---keep you warm on a day

got another floor mounted light with the new energy saver bulb in ----its shyte--



did have a guy worked for me years ago hated lights -(just used the room lighting)---his work was still spot on though
 
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thanks all

wat do u think of my technique of applying fresh gear to the wall as it in final trowelling stages and letting it sit for a minute or 2 then trowelling up. At wat point is a wall to dry to apply more gear. Also need to buy a filler for the misses but only need tiny amount cant be arsed spending a tenner on easifill as i will take a decade to use a 10kg bag. is there a smaller/cheaper alternative? Or does easifill not go out of date like plaster?

thanks for ur help so far i did use a halogen 2 yrs ago but got cocky and thought i dont need that no more. Clearly i still do!
 
i personally think the key to a smooth flat wall is how you lay on. particularly the second coat. when i 2nd coat all i have left on the wall are very very faint trowel lines, no holes, no misses. after the 1st flatten they are gone, so the wall is flat, then the next 2 trowels just make sure its smooth
 
If you add fresh plaster 2 late it does nt adhere, thats why you get shelling when your trying to fill in hollows.You need to be flattening earlier, getting ya surface perfect way before you need ya water.
 
When I put my second coat on I'm trowelling in as I go, then a dry trowel -maybe two, before the water goes on it - makes life so much easier:RpS_thumbup:
 
Agree with Steve...I lay my first coat on as flat as poss...then flatten in, i'll make sure hollows and edges are filled after my first coat while flattening in. Then my second (if i put one on!) will gaurantee flatness all hollows filled. As for timing it can't really be explained you need to see it done.

For filler use polyfilla multi pupose trade.
 
If you're getting misses then you need lay your coats on more even and concentrate more when it comes to flatten, or you need more light?

Maybe you're trying to flatten to early and just leaving more lines and hollows? It's important you time it right and get your lines out and hollows filled when you flatten. If you do you can leave it for ages before even touching it with water which you wont need hardly any of if the timings right and it's flattened properly, if you don't you'll just end up throwing your water on and filling the misses with fat.
 
Looking back i think a lot of factors were at play on friday. Lighting was shite i was blocked from natural lite by a big bloody cupboard behind me. I also did 3 biggish walls with two wet angles which was a first for me (prob shudda stuck to 2 walls) And when it went dark i was working of one of those pensioner energy saving lightbulbs.

Have a nice little flouresent plastering light which i can use or are halogens best?

Spot of luck i will be filling the misses with fat later oh errr
 
halogens can be with you and against you. best to try them yourself and see what you think. don't stick to 2 walls. get the three on ever ytime, always push yourself and dont worry about wet angles. i actually prefer doing thems, until i came on here i didnt realise some people had a problem with wet angles
 
Wet angles are all part of the game, that's why we were shoved into bunks as apprentices.


























'Bunks' are cupboards/understairs and any other tiny sh*thole with loads of angles:RpS_thumbup:
 
you can buy smaller bags of easifill in larger b&q's for £6 or so. But if your work is at the same level as mine I buy it direct from gypsum by the ton!!! :RpS_unsure:
 
HI all

Hit 3 more walls today and took your advice and actually used a spot stand today. How much easier is that for working and keeping everything clean. I usually have 2 or 3 gorrilla tubs clean and just dump them with gear in them when ive finished. SPot board was so much quicker/cleaner.

Also used halogens although was chasing misses endlessly as those bastards show every blemish. Kept trowel clean on trowelling up and had all misses covered before the water hit the wall. So much better.

Cheers for the words of guidance
 
why does everybody seem to use loads of water to trowel up,that means youve got yo much on and its gone,i dont use any water to trowel up and i get it looking like a mirror.
 
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