blue grit

Marshy said:
You won't be disappointed just allow it to dry the day before
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Serious question Greg, if you use it on all your stuff are you happy going day before to prep, sounds hard work being at a job all day and going to another to prep, just wondering if you have a system that makes it easy
 
Lodan said:
Serious question Greg, if you use it on all your stuff are you happy going day before to prep, sounds hard work being at a job all day and going to another to prep, just wondering if you have a system that makes it easy
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I'l PM you as I'd explain better over the phone
 
Lodan said:
Serious question Greg, if you use it on all your stuff are you happy going day before to prep, sounds hard work being at a job all day and going to another to prep, just wondering if you have a system that makes it easy
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I always got asked this but after a week or so you are ahead of the game as you pretty much don't have to do any prep the morning of the job. So you are ahead :-)

Also it's good to see the job the day before so if it is not ready you can go do something else :-)
 
I always prep day before. If domestic.. Plastic on floor, radiator. Windows, doors ect. Masking around ceiling line. Bang on the blue grit and away.. That's half a days.. Back the following for skim. Use loads of the sticky floor protector. Often wonder if some under price work so need to rush to make a wage?
 
Wayners said:
I always prep day before. If domestic.. Plastic on floor, radiator. Windows, doors ect. Masking around ceiling line. Bang on the blue grit and away.. That's half a days.. Back the following for skim. Use loads of the sticky floor protector. Often wonder if some under price work so need to rush to make a wage?
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Lol
 
Takes 5 mins to staple a tarp down...

Masking tapes for painters...just wipe as you go also easier to see margins etc...

1 coat of thick pva and your skimming in 10 minutes...

Beads and additional powder and tasks inbetween trowels...

I'd be literally thousands down a year with that palava set up!
 
zombie said:
Takes 5 mins to staple a tarp down...

Masking tapes for painters...just wipe as you go also easier to see margins etc...

1 coat of thick pva and your skimming in 10 minutes...

Beads and additional powder and tasks inbetween trowels...

I'd be literally thousands down a year with that palava set up!
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Have to agree with that, if I were to charge people an extra day just for blue gritting I would not get the work, there is always some little s**t who will do a house for fifty pence and customers do not know what the job entails all they see is he wants fifty pence to do my house you want fifty million for as far as they know the same job
 
Mouldyoldspudgun said:
Have to agree with that, if I were to charge people an extra day just for blue gritting I would not get the work, there is always some little s**t who will do a house for fifty pence and customers do not know what the job entails all they see is he wants fifty pence to do my house you want fifty million for as far as they know the same job
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Wish I made fifty pence a day. I made nothing at all today and two dollars yesterday.
 
Tbh I never used gyprime until about a year and half ago always used to over look it as it’s £80 ish a tub but having mixed different dilution of it 5-1,4-1,3-1,2-1 and pure, penny finally dropped to me that it’s the king of prep , I tried a few tubs of micro gobetis and that isn’t far off gyprime for pleasure of skimming over but micro and blue grit are pigs to apply compare to gyprime ( I use a big brush from P1ss), gyprime lasts for a long time if diluted correctly and saved into bottles in van I have different dilution ratios at hand , it’s ready to skim within 10 minutes most the time on any surface, my last tub lasted nearly 2 months.
Depending on job I’d sometimes prep day before if possible, good plan in terms of rooms being ready to go
Blue grit imho I found the worst pre treatment to apply and skim over I’ve ever used though, I’d tell builder straight who is in charge of plastering and swap to my choice.
 
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Vincey said:
Tbh I never used gyprime until about a year and half ago always used to over look it as it’s £80 ish a tub but having mixed different dilution of it 5-1,4-1,3-1,2-1 and pure penny finally dropped to me that it’s the king of prep , I tried a few tubs of micro gobetis and that isn’t far off gyprime for pleasure of skimming over but micro and blue grit are pigs to apply compare to gyprime ( I use a big brush from P1ss), gyprime lasts for a long time if diluted correctly and saved into bottles in van I have different dilution ratios at hand , it’s ready to skim within 10 minutes most the time on any surface, my last tub lasted nearly 2 months.
Depending on job I’d sometimes prep day before if possible, good plan in terms of rooms being ready to go
Blue grit imho I found the worst pre treatment to apply and skim over I’ve ever used though, I’d tell builder straight who is in charge of plastering and swap to my choice.
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We used to use it a lot a few years ago as hard wall went through a phase of cracking and blowing srrangely enough around the same time the eco warriors decided celcon blocks had to be more heat keeping in friendly
 
Mouldyoldspudgun said:
We used to use it a lot a few years ago as hard wall went through a phase of cracking and blowing srrangely enough around the same time the eco warriors decided celcon blocks had to be more heat keeping in friendly
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True I forgot that too mate if needed on brick work too added bonus it can control suction for light weight float coats especially hard wall , some jobs I’ve floated wall in hardwall then gave a watered down quick flick over before skimming, it’s very versatile product, even Pva has its down falls ,small blisters and air pockets , un even suction, gyprime doesn’t it’s king
 
Vincey said:
True I forgot that too mate if needed on brick work too added bonus it can control suction for light weight float coats especially hard wall , some jobs I’ve floated wall in hardwall then gave a watered down quick flick over before skimming, it’s very versatile product, even Pva has its down falls ,small blisters and air pockets , un even suction, gyprime doesn’t it’s king
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It used to be good skimming over the hard wall, no rushing around
 
I spoke to an old Irish fella a while back that told me they used to mix Pva , sand and paint together, paint it over everything (existing painted walls) and skim a few days later
 
Stevieo said:
What is this hard wall anyway? I'm sure I'll have seen it, but I call it something else. Bit like that Cat face thing that came up the other day.
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It’s a light weight floating coat, gypsum based similar to bonding and browning, you skim it with multi finish
 
Plus browning is useless s**t a bit like the old bandage scrim that was about in the eighties and nineties guaranteed to crack as soon as you walked out the door
 
Mouldyoldspudgun said:
Just floating over celcon or bricks it does concrete as well but takes a while to go off on low suction backgrounds
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Never seen it, but my experience is more to do with general building/jobbing than wider experience of plastering, so I've only seen dot and dab,or baton and board or float and set for going over brick and block.

I've heard of one coat but I know everyone says it's s**t.

Why use hard wall instead of s&c,pretty much because you can mix it with a drill?
 
Stevieo said:
Never seen it, but my experience is more to do with general building/jobbing than wider experience of plastering, so I've only seen dot and dab,or baton and board or float and set for going over brick and block.

I've heard of one coat but I know everyone says it's s**t.

Why use hard wall instead of s&c,pretty much because you can mix it with a drill?
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You will have to give an old git a bit of Lee way here but what’s s&c
 
Vincey said:
Tbh I never used gyprime until about a year and half ago always used to over look it as it’s £80 ish a tub but having mixed different dilution of it 5-1,4-1,3-1,2-1 and pure, penny finally dropped to me that it’s the king of prep , I tried a few tubs of micro gobetis and that isn’t far off gyprime for pleasure of skimming over but micro and blue grit are pigs to apply compare to gyprime ( I use a big brush from P1ss), gyprime lasts for a long time if diluted correctly and saved into bottles in van I have different dilution ratios at hand , it’s ready to skim within 10 minutes most the time on any surface, my last tub lasted nearly 2 months.
Depending on job I’d sometimes prep day before if possible, good plan in terms of rooms being ready to go
Blue grit imho I found the worst pre treatment to apply and skim over I’ve ever used though, I’d tell builder straight who is in charge of plastering and swap to my choice.
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I really don't understand what you're on about?
Gypprime isn't a replacement product for Blue Grit, PVA or Microgobetis, it does a different job.
Thistle Bond-it would be a more comparable product surely?
 
essexandy said:
I really don't understand what you're on about?
Gypprime isn't a replacement product for Blue Grit, PVA or Microgobetis, it does a different job.
Thistle Bond-it would be a more comparable product surely?
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I think he was picking up on something I said earlier when I got gyprime confused with blue grit when saying about watering it down
 
essexandy said:
I really don't understand what you're on about?
Gypprime isn't a replacement product for Blue Grit, PVA or Microgobetis, it does a different job.
Thistle Bond-it would be a more comparable product surely?
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I’d use gyprime instead, can be used for pretreatment of surface for skimming too not just suction control for blocks mate
 
In the end it is what you want to do... I quite like getting set up ready for the next day so I can just walk in and spin up and go :D

We use to send labourers to jobs to prep them up ready (especially when you are scraping artex ceilings back) in fact this worked really well as we came and did the easy and clean bit after then walked out and left the labourer to clean up :D only really works if they are local jobs (mopst of mine were)
 
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