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[Alan b]

 

[Alan b]

Sometimes it goes all wrong , it waited 2 days tho haha

 

[JessThePlasterer]

That’s one hell of a fart!

 

[Alan b]

Oh yes , never had this happen in 30 yrs hahah

 

[johniosaif]

Oh yes , never had this happen in 30 yrs hahah

Unifinish @Vincey

 

[Deleted member 46546]

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What did you skim over? Looks like incredibly dirty/dusty artex?
Deserved for leaving the architrave in that state, tut tut

 

[paulf]

Is that a coat of bonding that you've skimmed over artex and multi over that?

 

[Alan b]

Is that a coat of bonding that you've skimmed over artex and multi over that?

Aye 2 coats of PVA, levels with bonding and skimmed with multi

 

[John j]

Aye 2 coats of PVA, levels with bonding and skimmed with multi

You.ve missed a bit

 

[paulf]

Aye 2 coats of PVA, levels with bonding and skimmed with multi

This isn't a criticism but it can happen if the pva mix is to strong especially if the bonding isn't keyed. It's like the pva holds back the suction but the multi doesn't bond to the bonding and just sits on a skin of pva. Obviously I'm just surmising could be something else entirely.

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

Should have devilled the bonding and just skimmed over top it wouldn’t need pva ing

 

[Alan b]

Should have devilled the bonding and just skimmed over top it wouldn’t need pva ing

Devilled?

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

Devilled?

Put your scratch float over it to give a key for the top coat

 

[John j]

Bit of easy fill will sort that @stuart23

 

[Alan b]

Put your scratch float over it to give a key for the top coat

Put your scratch float over it to give a key for the top coat

The bonding let go and brought the top coat with it

 

[Alan b]

This isn't a criticism but it can happen if the pva mix is to strong especially if the bonding isn't keyed. It's like the pva holds back the suction but the multi doesn't bond to the bonding and just sits on a skin of pva. Obviously I'm just surmising could be something else entirely.

No mate, it was the bonding coat that's failed, initially I thought it was the humidity in tha place caused the PVA to fail but fk knows. Never had bonding fall before normally sticks like shite to a blanket

 

[paulf]

The bonding let go and brought the top coat with it

Taking a closer look you can see that, could be the ceiling has been painted with vinyl silk and there's not enough suction to draw the moisture out of the bonding and skim and its lost its bond.

 

[beader]

Over board and skim if you don't want any more problems .............someone will say .

 

[Mouldyoldspudgun]

The bonding let go and brought the top coat with it

Sorry my bad thought the bonding was still there

 

[Deleted member 32554]

Foot traffic above
Always hit it tacky

 

[paulf]

Sorry my bad thought the bonding was still there

Me too, purely cos of the grey background.

 

[beader]

Taking a closer look you can see that, could be the ceiling has been painted with vinyl silk and there's not enough suction to draw the moisture out of the bonding and skim and its lost its bond.

bonding is for low suction substrates .

 

[paulf]

bonding is for low suction substrates .

I know, just all the moisture with no suction plus the pva not drying quick enough to bond it to the ceiling.

 

[essexandy]

This isn't a criticism but it can happen if the pva mix is to strong especially if the bonding isn't keyed. It's like the pva holds back the suction but the multi doesn't bond to the bonding and just sits on a skin of pva. Obviously I'm just surmising could be something else entirely.

@JessThePlasterer

 

[paulf]

@JessThePlasterer

 

[JessThePlasterer]

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I just saw the details there! Lol!

 

[smoother09]

Looks poo anyway hang thee trowel up cock!

 

[Donzo]

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Good to see you have balls to post it. It has happened to most of us.some can be explained others cant. The older you get the more you see. And the more you learn.
Pick yourself up and move on,30 years without a fail is good going.
Its only your pride that will be hurt,not life and death i hope.☺

 

[ChrispyUK]

Few screws and penny washers always best on a ceiling...preferably stainless steel.

 

[paulf]

Few screws and penny washers always best on a ceiling...preferably stainless steel.

Some people don't deserve ceilings especially people who call them roofs.
"Hi could you give me a price, I need my roof skimmed ".

 

[hollybank]

The bonding today ain’t as good as it was years ago.
I’ve had it fail myself years ago over artex,best just skim it over or overboard it.

 

[raytheplasterer]

grit is always better for those types of things.

 

[johniosaif]

Nothing is better , if the background isn’t solid , distemper or unsound paint , you’ll need to scrape it or overboard

 

[Alan b]

Good to see you have balls to post it. It has happened to most of us.some can be explained others cant. The older you get the more you see. And the more you learn.
Pick yourself up and move on,30 years without a fail is good going.
Its only your pride that will be hurt,not life and death i hope.☺

The problem is, I have the upstairs to do next, semi vaulted ceilings , so.. have I done something wrong ? or is it just a freak reaction with the substrate and is it going to happen again. The one in the photo has no bond whatsoever if I touch it more falls , is a f**k**g nightmare

 

[paulf]

The bonding today ain’t as good as it was years ago.
I’ve had it fail myself years ago over artex,best just skim it over or overboard it.

Hangs like f**k on surfaces that have next to no suction, you when when the pva is still to wet after an hour your bonding coat will be the same.