Carpenter looking for coloured render advice for own new build

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Hi All:RpS_thumbup:. I am a carpenter who is in the middle of building my own house in mid Wales. When i first looked at the rendered finish i wanted it was going to be K-Rend but i have since looked again and have seen quite a few posts about algae and the need to wash down after two years:RpS_scared: I know quite a few plasterers around here but they do not have much experience with any of the products. There has been a new pub built in Welshpool and i think it was done with K Rend ( Smithfield Bell, Marstons pub). Whoever done it has done a proper job, i have been told it was somebody from Wrexham way. I have heard good things about Sto but i am a carpenter and i dont go near plastering(leave that to the professionals). There is a lad round here doing K Rend but he doesnt use a pump:confused: and ive heard one of his customers is taking him to court due to a bad job ( only what ive heard)
The job would be roughly 200m2. Any help or advice would be appreciated:RpS_thumbsup:
Mike
 
twiglet said:
Hi All:RpS_thumbup:. I am a carpenter who is in the middle of building my own house in mid Wales. When i first looked at the rendered finish i wanted it was going to be K-Rend but i have since looked again and have seen quite a few posts about algae and the need to wash down after two years:RpS_scared: I know quite a few plasterers around here but they do not have much experience with any of the products. There has been a new pub built in Welshpool and i think it was done with K Rend ( Smithfield Bell, Marstons pub). Whoever done it has done a proper job, i have been told it was somebody from Wrexham way. I have heard good things about Sto but i am a carpenter and i dont go near plastering(leave that to the professionals). There is a lad round here doing K Rend but he doesnt use a pump:confused: and ive heard one of his customers is taking him to court due to a bad job ( only what ive heard)
The job would be roughly 200m2. Any help or advice would be appreciated:RpS_thumbsup:
Mike
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200m2 can be pumped or hand applied, some simply can't be arsed to set the machine up for 200m2. There's a lot more old school hand appliers up North, doesn't matter really a good job should look the same done both ways.

Algae is a subjective issue in the fact it will affect some people and not others seemingly randomly, saying that it is much less of a prevalent issue than it was a few years back when the pesticide regs were getting messed around with by the powers that be. A lot of the manufacturers have accepted the MASSIVE fee that got introduced to get their product pesticide certified and started putting algae prevention measures back in their materials.

Do you know what the required wind driven rain index is for building regs in your area? If its high the renders you will have a choice of will get much smaller.
 
Rain driven index is middle of the road( looked into it for the slates ) Not in the red index on the map
 
Morning Twiglet

Welcome to the Plasterers Forum Mate!

How are you building? Is it a traditional brick build and render? - in which case you have many options starting with a monocouche (one coat) type finish, through to the thin coats. Or is it a timber frame (or similar). where you are looking at a boarded render finish? - usually these have thin coat renders.

There are loads of render system suppliers in the UK (I think there are somewhere near 20...), and they will all start with what your sub-straight is, then work the options for you from there. you might want to make contact with some of the render system suppliers directly, to ask them to assist you with advise and local contractors to price it up for you, you will find contact details for them on line.

If you are looking for a local spread near you, to assist with advise, I am sure there will be a few guys on here who will be happy to help - be a bit more specific as to where you are (Welshpool / Wrexham? BTW - I love a drop of Wrexham Lager!!)

I specialise in specifying and assisting with a directly applied render carrier board - for use on Timber Frame and SIP builds (mainly) and have lots of contacts within the render industry..... If you are building with a timber frame type build and want some boarded render advise, or if you want some render system supplier contcat details to suit where you are - give me a shout - my contact details are on my profile page (click my forum name, top left, click view profile and then you should find my contact details on one of the tabs on the main page)

Good luck mate!

BTW - you looking for guys to dryline and then plaster the insides as well? Loads of internal plasterers on here as well!
 
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Thanks for the indepth reply. The house is in the Welshpool area and is brick plinth to 900mmm then 7n solid concrete block for the rest. The local plasterers i know do not touch any of the systems (mostly red brick round here) and do not know anybody they would recommend to me. Im sure they know people who do it, just they would not recommend them for my own house. As for skimming interior i already have a plasterer that is the bees knees. Sorry for the late reply, ive just got in. The job will not be done until the spring time so i have plenty of time to find the system and plasterer for the job
Mike, oh and i like most beers, not overly fussed where there from!!!!
 
Book someone now, most renderers are taking bookings now for a Spring start.

I am taking bookings for June already!
 
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You are, you came here :)
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Thats reassuring, what with the plumbing,electrics,networking,kitchen choices, when all i really care about is how big a tv i can fit in the living room and could i get away with a fridge for my beer without the wife noticing
 
Right I have been looking around and was wondering what anyone's thoughts on Webber pral m in special beige is like? I presume it rubs up to give the same look as K-rend? Im starting to see that most of these systems are very similar. I have also noticed that as others have said it does not need machine applying. Do all these systems need meshing or is it only some of them. My plasterer is s**t hot at rendering sand and cement and has done one job in K-Rend. I have no doubts that he could do a good job, i just dont fancy paying him to practice on my house:RpS_blink:
 
If your unsure contact Parex, Krend and Webber direct and ask to speak to a rep in your area. They will know the better lads out there that can do the job to the right standard. I would say machine applied with the right team is the way to go. I would also rate them in that order. Less issues with Parex, we use 80% of this on our jobs.
 
There has been a lot of developments here in ireland in the noughties that have used machine and hand applied weber pral & k-rend products mostly in the lighter colours finished to a very high standard. Having passed some of the those developments lately the finish is starting to look very rough and weathered.

I personally would never use or recommend the monocouche renders again on a property i was plastering, i just don't think the one coat monocouche renders are up to the ireland uk climate. If done well you cant beat the traditional 3 coat sand and cement for finish & durability..
 
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