Covid jab

Rossi46 said:
Look up The Great Reset. 4th industrial revolution. Klaus Schwab. Regardless of the jab. We’re not going back to normal. Sorry to burst your bubble after having your jab.
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I haven't had the jab,and all that is speculation why would you believe Klaus Schwab? I think the 4th IR was originally talked about in 2015/16 way before covid.
 
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spread95 said:
I haven't had the jab,and all that is speculation and why would you believe Klaus Schwab?
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Why wouldn’t i? Him and world leaders meet every year to make their plans. Tech billionaires too. They are the ones that run the world. They’re pulling the strings on this whole corona response. In his words “this pandemic presents are rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine and reset our world”
 
spread95 said:
And your point is?
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They claim their offering the vaccine, then they say under israeli programming they will be administering shots at military checkpoints, sounds like an "offer" you can't refuse to me!
lol!


Your welcome
 
Rossi46 said:
Why wouldn’t i? Him and world leaders meet every year to make their plans. Tech billionaires too. They are the ones that run the world. They’re pulling the strings on this whole corona response. In his words “this pandemic presents are rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine and reset our world”
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But he doesn't say anything about using the vaccine to control the world
 
My neighbour who is 6 years older than me I'm 58, has been on a ventilator for 7 weeks with covid and has no underlying health issues.
I have 40yrs worth of plaster dust in my lungs so my lung capacity is not classed as normal, an underlying health issue.
I am concerned about the jab and possible after effects but I want to go to the pub and meet friends and to live my life as near to pre covid as possible in changing times.
I have decided to have the jab when offered for my and my familys personal safety and for no other reason, it not a decision I have taken lightly and hope its the right one.
We all have our own opinions and circumstances and only time will tell if I've made the right decision.
 
spread95 said:
My neighbour who is 6 years older than me I'm 58, has been on a ventilator for 7 weeks with covid and has no underlying health issues.
I have 40yrs worth of plaster dust in my lungs so my lung capacity is not classed as normal, an underlying health issue.
I am concerned about the jab and possible after effects but I want to go to the pub and meet friends and to live my life as near to pre covid as possible in changing times.
I have decided to have the jab when offered for my and my familys personal safety and for no other reason, it not a decision I have taken lightly and hope its the right one.
We all have our own opinions and circumstances and only time will tell if I've made the right decision.
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No you’re right. Everyone has their own reasons for sure (y)
I feel threatened by it. Choice will eventually be taken away. Look at Peter Hitchens! I can’t believe he’s buckled and is now convincing other to get it. That’s the strangest 180 I’ve ever seen.
Im asthmatic and get chest infections every winter. I’m a risk but I’d rather do what I can naturally and see where this is heading.
 
Rossi46 said:
No you’re right. Everyone has their own reasons for sure (y)
I feel threatened by it. Choice will eventually be taken away. Look at Peter Hitchens! I can’t believe he’s buckled and is now convincing other to get it. That’s the strangest 180 I’ve ever seen.
Im asthmatic and get chest infections every winter. I’m a risk but I’d rather do what I can naturally and see where this is heading.
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I think I would have done the same but seeing my neighbours grandkids crying while explaining to me their situation swayed my decision.
 
spread95 said:
You can be tracked already, cctv, every move you make if your phones switched on, facebook, anpr cameras , nosey neighbours etc etc, the virus will make no difference.
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True, but those are unoffical, an ID/Vaccine cert makes it official. Rossi is right, we are at a tipping point, where government wishes finally co-incide with the technical means to do it. I've never liked the feeling when I'm in a country where I have to carry ID and can be stopped by any police etc. and binned for not having my id on me.
 
Problem reaction solution. How where they every going to get us all under a digital ID without the panic of a worldwide virus.
 
Rossi46 said:
“this pandemic presents are rare but narrow window of opportunity to reflect, reimagine and reset our world”
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Totally true, his world not ours, like best mate Bill Gates cornering food supply. It's not so ,much the vaccinne but the collateral levers and opportunities that they can see.
 
I would of thought 20/30 years ago would have been the best time to make us all have id and change the world, before the internet made it easy to find out about this stuff.
Very few would go to the library and research the sort of information we have available now. The royals, the mega rich and the governments were around then and people in general were more receptive to change.
Why did they need to wait for a pandemic, whats changed?
 
Nothing has really changed, it's has been a long slow push, resisted by 2nd world war generation and advanced by the growth in technology and terrorism. The global impact and level of chaos caused by this outbreak is just seen by some, not all, as an opportunity to profit from it financially or influence positioning.
My crazy uncle (2nd WW sniper) could see and was predicting this (loudly) 50 plus years ago. Turns out a lot of his quite specific predictions are coming true, bit like Attenborough.
 
Brimstone said:
True, but those are unoffical, an ID/Vaccine cert makes it official. Rossi is right, we are at a tipping point, where government wishes finally co-incide with the technical means to do it. I've never liked the feeling when I'm in a country where I have to carry ID and can be stopped by any police etc. and binned for not having my id on me.
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I must admit I would not like to carry id but only because I don't like carrying anything. I presume you don't do any site work so you don't need a cis or cscs card and unless you drive on false plates every time you go past an anpr camera your tax, mot, insurance, registration details and numerous other information is checked and recorded. Big brothers never going to become a liitle brother just get bigger!
 
spread95 said:
I must admit I would not like to carry id but only because I don't like carrying anything. I presume you don't do any site work so you don't need a cis or cscs card and unless you drive on false plates every time you go past an anpr camera your tax, mot, insurance, registration details and numerous other information is checked and recorded. Big brothers never going to become a liitle brother just get bigger!
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As it happens I do quite a bit of site work from time to time, just not the big ones who check. ANPR etc are pretty comprehensive but there are ways you can keep some privacy. The devil is in the details on the paperwork. Even as simple as, do you put the right address on the chip in the dog? In certain sectors of community they never do, so if they dump or sell it there is no comeback.
 
Brimstone said:
I've never liked the feeling when I'm in a country where I have to carry ID and can be stopped by any police etc. and binned for not having my id on me.
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Not the same, but in a similar vein, I found it unpleasantly weird when I was spending a few days in a nice neighbourhood in the US, only to notice, one evening that there were signs up saying there was a curfew each night in the common land. I presume this was to discourage teenagers boozing in the woods and disturbing people at night, but to institute a total curfew felt quite sinister (totalitarian / Big Brother) to me, as someone who merely wanted to harmlessly get out of the house for some fresh air and sit somewhere quietly alone, to meditate. What more fundamental right does a human being have than to quietly sit in nature??
 
Brimstone said:
As it happens I do quite a bit of site work from time to time, just not the big ones who check. ANPR etc are pretty comprehensive but there are ways you can keep some privacy. The devil is in the details on the paperwork. Even as simple as, do you put the right address on the chip in the dog? In certain sectors of community they never do, so if they dump or sell it there is no comeback.
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I refused to get cscs card but could still get on most sites if I'd worked for the site agents before. Not tried for about 5yrs as I changed to working for small builders but I actually preferred site work untill h&s got silly.
 
MakeItSmooth said:
Not the same, but in a similar vein, I found it unpleasantly weird when I was spending a few days in a nice neighbourhood in the US, only to notice, one evening that there were signs up saying there was a curfew each night in the common land. I presume this was to discourage teenagers boozing in the woods and disturbing people at night, but to institute a total curfew felt quite sinister (totalitarian / Big Brother) to me, as someone who merely wanted to harmlessly get out of the house for some fresh air and sit somewhere quietly alone, to meditate. What more fundamental right does a human being have than to quietly sit in nature??
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Exactly the same vein, same on US Bases elsewhere in the world. "Decent" folk drive cars and don't hang about or walk anywhere at night. Poor folk walking, especially black 'coz they can't see them at night, are clearly thieves to be shot on sight - paranoid, fearfull, OTT.
 
I had the works van when I past my test at 20. So I had to pick up a couple of lads every morning. And without fail I was told to stop at the paky’s so they could get the cans. One of the lads was a roofer. Lol
 
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