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been asked to try and match a room with coving so it looks like the rest of the house.

so i took a look online and round this web site

https://www.uk.bondsplastermouldings.com/

look good as i only fort you can buy the small stuff from b&Q ect and anything bigger had to be made by some one else?

question is do you think the coving on this site would be easy for a day 2 day plasterer to fit?
 
for a plasterer yes, but for you... ;D i've never fitted that patterened stuff, just normal coving and cornice. do you have to match the patten through the angle?
 
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coving isnt that hard to fit Oasis.To be honest ive not done a hell of a lot of it but ive always done a good job when ive needed too its common sense stuff really,just take ur time.
Like steve mentioned the paternd stuff is a little more tricky but not a lot different to matching wall paper,just straight cut it rather than going for angle cuts with the conecting joints (not corners obviously).Make sure u use a finer toothed saw.
 
ive done loads of coving. and only 1 cornice job. hated the cornice because it was still damp. the bloke hadnt done it in time and the customer wanted it up quick time. nice to use dental plaster for the mitres though. i'd like to see somebody do the patterened stuff, i imagine if you have to match the pattern in the angles there would be a fair amount of waste?
 
steve cov said:
ive done loads of coving. and only 1 cornice job. hated the cornice because it was still damp. the bloke hadnt done it in time and the customer wanted it up quick time. nice to use dental plaster for the mitres though. i'd like to see somebody do the patterened stuff, i imagine if you have to match the pattern in the angles there would be a fair amount of waste?
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i have done a lot of the patterened stuff dont have much waste as ur just cuting the ends of at the point where u want them to match
 
OK got a sample today but how the hell would u fit it? fill it all in with adhsive?




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use the adhesive the company sells... dont rely on 45 mitres.. string a chalk line arount the wall angles... making sure they are level... if the ceiling is running out make up the joints on this angle as it shouldnt be seen, (unless its miles out) so long as the wall angles are straight the coving will look strait... as for the mitres if they are not at 45 they are called bast**d mitres and can easily be worked out by using a pencil line ie offer each internal or external up line it... mark the cove where the lines intersect... when u cut mitre just make sure the cove is in the position it will end up in and cut straight
 
oasis said:
OK got a sample today but how the hell would u fit it? fill it all in with adhsive?




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i use filler like for tapeing sets fast alot of the adhisive that comes with the coveing is s**t
 
oasis said:
i see so alot of filling behind theys types of coving is required to fill the huge gap?
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no u only fill along the edge that hit the wall dab along the edge wih a tapeing knife or the end of your trowel put agood bit on and it will squeeze out along edge then run your finger along the edge and clen with wet brush
 
You'll need screws for that one. Make sure you pre drill and countersink the screw heads. If you just try and whizz a screw through, you'll damage the cove and have more repairs to do. There should be a timber strip running through the top and bottom edges of the profile, try and screw through that. you can use Artex Quick Start to put this up with. It's one of the stickiest fast setting products i've come across. I'd advise you either seal the back edge with pva or Artex Sealer before you apply the adhesive, as once the adhesive touches the bare cornice, it will suck in like f**k and will be a t**t to clean off.
 
oasis u will find this easy enough cause its astraight type [its harder on the pattern stuff ie dentils etc] make sure u get the dimensions from manufacter same as previous lads have said
 
oasis said:
been asked to try and match a room with coving so it looks like the rest of the house.

so i took a look online and round this web site

https://www.uk.bondsplastermouldings.com/

look good as i only fort you can buy the small stuff from b&Q ect and anything bigger had to be made by some one else?

question is do you think the coving on this site would be easy for a day 2 day plasterer to fit?
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i day to fit one day to horse hair the edges and fill ...headache try orac coving its super lite and u fit it with white no nails orac coving .com they do all designs and they will match
 
That Orac stuff is f**k**g horrible. There's no suction to get a nice joint, the mastic they supply to fix it with shrinks and it is so flimsy it follows every dip or bulge in the wall. And it's dear as f**k. Utter crap. Not a patch on the real thing.
 
the customer has also got a sample from online its light weight as F*uck! the stuff i have is like pottery! how can you screw in to this type? and all you could fix to si the walls so plug and screw i take it? the edges are so thin i dint think that would hold it up just gluing that part.

also how would you go about cutting the type i have?

whole new ball game all this coving lark!

i was going to get my other plaster to fit it as iv never even fitted coving my self (all thow iv been told its very easy)


still getting some good info here!
 
oasis said:
the customer has also got a sample from online its light weight as F*uck! the stuff i have is like pottery! how can you screw in to this type? and all you could fix to si the walls so plug and screw i take it? the edges are so thin i dint think that would hold it up just gluing that part.

also how would you go about cutting the type i have?

whole new ball game all this coving lark!

i was going to get my other plaster to fit it as iv never even fitted coving my self (all thow iv been told its very easy)it s like everything in life it s easy when u know how get your man to fit it and give him a hand then u will know how i have two rooms to fit monday with coveing like yours and there wont be ascrew or nail in sight


still getting some good info here!
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people only say coving is hard to do because they struggle with mitres. once you spend a couple of hours with someone who knows what the are doing. its a piece of pi55. i scribe my internals which means i only have to do 1 cut for the internal mitres instead of 2 45s. this is also good if the walls are out of square.
 
or get someone who knows what they are doing. and watch them. its not hard mate. just dont try and scribe cornice ;D
 
i dont plan on touching it.. iv got the damp guy in to do the damp work , I'm skimming the room and doing all the decoration but he all so wanted the coving fitted, i feel that the coving should be done by the plasterer so im trying to provide the service

just trying to understand it.

when its made of the hard pottery stuff I'm guessing if you have a ceiling thats all over the place you would be f*uked!
 
as said the hardest part is mastering the mitres.

im a fibrous plasterer as well as solid, so we do quite a bit of this work. by pottery i guess you mean casting plaster. there will never be a massavie deviation in the ceiling lines unless the ceiling has sagged over the year just snap a level chaulk line around the room first you can always float out or skim the ceiling once the cornice is up to get it bang on level. you shouldnt be using adhesive to stick it up with it wants a solid fixing ie srews, if you dont know what youre doing leave it alone as it looks terible if poorly done.

time was when you had to do fibrous plastering as part of your trade as a plasterer, not now adays with skimmers calling themselves spreads :o
 
go to a fibrous shop and ask about fitting mate you cut it wrong youll end up with a cows c**t in the mitres
 
dont turn it down mate, its not impossible to do, you just need someone to show you how to start off. if you always turned down jobs you werent sure on where would you be now?!
 
steve cov said:
dont turn it down mate, its not impossible to do, you just need someone to show you how to start off. if you always turned down jobs you werent sure on where would you be now?!
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this is what i always say but mr flnnyman would shoot you down for saying that u need a card 2 do anythink!
 
and you think flynny knew how to do everything straight away? trust me mate its not hard. i'd say the fiddliest part is filling the mitres once its all up. bit of dental plaster and away you go, small tool and a stanley blade. thats how i was taught. but only do a couple at a time because it sets extremely fast.
 
slow it down with cream of tartar-also mix it with lime(hydrated)it burns your skin real bad so wear gloves-i thinkk that theres a tool called a magic mitre that will sort all them non standard angles-stay away from that lightweight shi-te-you cant fill it with plaster.i always use either easifill or lafarge fastset as cove adhesive-you get a good bond and plenty of time before it sets.hold cove/cornice up with nails underneathand above-have fun with the mitrebox!!
 
oasis said:
steve cov said:
dont turn it down mate, its not impossible to do, you just need someone to show you how to start off. if you always turned down jobs you werent sure on where would you be now?!
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this is what i always say but mr flnnyman would shoot you down for saying that u need a card 2 do anythink!
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woooooooooooooooooooooow woooooooooooooooow wow oasis i never said that lol coving is simple if you know what your doing but can look bad if you dont, try it by all means but dont blame me for everything ;)
 
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