Damp proofing rip off

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I answer your post only because of the inaccuracies within it.

You say:
Stephen Boniface, former chairman of the RICS has stated that rising damp is a myth.

Stephen Boniface has never been chairman of the RICS as you assert. His experience is listed in the biography below. His biography reveals no particular interest in rising damp. He is much more of a generalist than a specialist in damp problems. There are no obvious grounds for giving this man the importance that you seem to.
STEPHEN BONIFACE
Stephen started his professional career in commercial property and property management. During the 1980s his work was broad and included mortgage valuations, planning, insurance claims and building surveys. It was during this period that his interest in historic buildings developed and in 1990 he was in the first intake to study the CEM Diploma in Building Conservation. Involvement in conservation quickly developed and in 1993 he was not only Accredited by RICS as someone experienced in building conservation, but set up his own practice. During the 1990s the practice developed and became known for building surveying work on historic buildings, including planning issues and in addition Stephen built up a reputation as an Expert Witness. In 2000 Stephen's practice merged with WCP where he became a partner. In recent years Stephen has been Chair of the RICS Building Conservation Forum and is presently the Chair of the RICS Building Surveying Faculty. Stephen is a regular speaker at conferences both in the UK and abroad and is a founder of the RICS Conservation Summer School. Stephen also leads the partnership's involvement as the 'Agony Uncle' on the Period Property website.
The debate within the RICS in 2011 is not so much that rising damp is a myth but what is the best way to diagnose it and the influence of salt type on diagnosis. The RICS as an institution to not support the views of Mr Boniface

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You say i can't remember where but I recently watched a video where an independent research team set up an experiment under controlled conditions where dozens of different types of bricks and brick/mortar combinations were payed in soaking damp areas over a period of years. No evidence of rising damp.
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It may be that you refer to the tests undertaken by Jeff Howell. He claims that rising damp is a myth. He published a book about this ‘myth’. It has been debunked as any modest internet search reveals.
There are other tests using brick walls where the rising moisture is thoroughly documented.

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You say ...every case of "rising damp" diagnosed by surveyors that I have treated using s+c with salt neutralisers and eradicating the cause of the damp have been 100% succesful.
You have never on this description, ever eradicated the cause of rising damp you have simply hidden it. When all the factors having a bearing on the rising damp exist in the most extreme form your client will find in the fullness of time find that moisture will rise above the s+c treatment you have prescribed..
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You say...If people insist on a chem dpc after I tell them they'd be better off getting the bricks blessed by a faith healer I will gladly take their money and inject.
Where you have taken on the design of the solution, that is, by insisting that there is no need for a dpc you will probably be legally responsible for any subsequent remedial costs. As a designer of a remdial treatment you have to have the average professional competence of a practitioner in that area of work that is a building surveyor or architect.
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You say...The difference between me and a rising damp company is that I'll tell the customer the truth.
I once invited all the damp proof companies in the Huddersfiled/Wakefiled Yellow Pages to test a house which had no rising damp but where I wet the walls with water near to the floor. About 16 companies turned up to inspect. Three of them told me the problem was condensation and not rising dampness. I sent these three a sum to cover their expenses. The other companies for your information all recommended the insertion of a chemical damp proof course. Although this is a truly abysmal measure of their competence or honesty it is incorrect to claim that all damp proof course companies fail to tell the customer the truth. On some occasions a modest 20% do.

Steve
 
Why say something in one sentence when you can say it in two paragraphs.

Stephen Boniface WAS a former chairman of the construction arm of the RICS.


The experiment I mentioned was not by Jeff Howells, and I shall look into it and get back to you on it.


I shall continue to inform my customers that faith healers charge more than rising damp 'specialists ' such as yourself although I will also point out that there will be a lot, and I mean a lot of small print from the so called specialist.


I shall let you have your customary long winded reply and I shall let my future customers make their own decisions after showing them this thread on my laptop. I will of course plug the charger in so they can read all of yours.


I think everyone can draw their own conclusions re hobgoblins and rising damp salespersons.


Au Revoir
 
[h=2]Best Answer - Chosen by Asker[/h]this is one of my pet subjects i can drone for hours!
i saw a documentary on this and an experiment was conducted by Liverpool university.
they built about 15 walls with different materials and monitored the effect.
the conclusion was to have 'rising' damp the bricks would have to be made of shredded wheat.
we have always bought houses that needed tons of stuff doing to them and have always had to fork out for this and it is total b*ll***s.all they find in truth is poor ventilation and condensation problems
we bought pur last house 2 yrs ago it hadn't been touched since 1936 lead pipes the lot-we fought the report findings and won.we have had no problems and when we got our central heating fitted the plumber said the underfloor space was a 'dry as a bone'.our previous house was a vic terrace where they found damp ...upstairs !!!under the window NO DAMP can rise that far.it is a huge con you still my have to fork out to get around a survey for a mortgage but don't let it put you off buying a property.and another thing(i did warn you)
all the companies who do the work are notoriously dodgy and every-ones guarantees are usually worth nowt cos they go out of business at an alarming rate. i am now going for a lie down!best of luck


Not the link I was talking about but I will find it
 
I was in a property few weeks back Victorian...the lean to flooded and the walls sucked it right up rose to about 800mm on the external wall...tidal mark all round...soaking wet
 
I'm on me iPad and for some reason can't post the link. Google " renovation rising damp ? No such thing " when you get this up hit the "part 2 " bit.
self explanatory.

Bearing in mind I'm NOT trying to sell any product and you'll find people who say rising damp exists are
 
I was in a property few weeks back Victorian...the lean to flooded and the walls sucked it right up rose to about 800mm on the external wall...tidal mark all round...soaking wet


Also in Victorian/Edwardian times builders would use unwashed sea sand/ gravel etc in outbuildings because it was cheaper etc.
 
Sliesteve normally checks this thread, composes his reply over about 3/4 hrs then posts. I don't have that much time unless I'm homedrinking. For that reason untill I find this elusive hobgoblin or rising up the walls really quick dampness that only came about 3 years ago in my 1897 property I'm going to ignore his advertisements.

Thank you and goodnight :RpS_biggrin:
 
I reckon your talking bullsh*t! Maybe it should be an optional extra on new builds then? If you could save some cash Flynny would you turn down the damp proof course? and go for the hot tub in the back garden maybe?
 
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I reckon your talking bullsh*t! Maybe it should be an optional extra on new builds then? If you could save some cash Flynny would you turn down the damp proof course? and go for the hot tub in the back garden maybe?

OK smart arse what about rising damp existing when there is a damp proof course? which nearly all the time there is a dampproof course but the conmen still come up with rising damp. Ive got a downstairs toilet, single skin, with a vent, a flatroof above it, no rad, on the ground floor, come winter the walls are damp as **** and the ceiling is dripping wet. This year there is not a single drop of water what do you think i did to solve the problem?
 
you use it for a store room for all the little packets of silica gel you get in boxes of trainers? and wynsors had a right sale on :RpS_thumbsup:

do tell us though my guess either something to do with the vent or something to do with the roof?
 
you use it for a store room for all the little packets of silica gel you get in boxes of trainers? and wynsors had a right sale on :RpS_thumbsup:

do tell us though my guess either something to do with the vent or something to do with the roof?

Nope non of them but it is the reason why damp walls exist and ive eradicated the problem.
 
OK smart arse what about rising damp existing when there is a damp proof course? which nearly all the time there is a dampproof course but the conmen still come up with rising damp. Ive got a downstairs toilet, single skin, with a vent, a flatroof above it, no rad, on the ground floor, come winter the walls are damp as **** and the ceiling is dripping wet. This year there is not a single drop of water what do you think i did to solve the problem?

is there a window? external walls? existing ventilation unit?

I dont know m8 what did you do insulate walls and ceilings internally, insulate externally? install better ventilation?

Or something more simple, leave the window open while having dump? no longer knocking one off every 5 minutes in downstairs loo? no longer drying your washing in there? Stop breathing while you go to toilet?
 
is there a window? external walls? existing ventilation unit?

I dont know m8 what did you do insulate walls and ceilings internally, insulate externally? install better ventilation?

Or something more simple, leave the window open while having dump? no longer knocking one off every 5 minutes in downstairs loo? no longer drying your washing in there? Stop breathing while you go to toilet?
It has a window but ive done nothing to that, it has a vent and always has done, there is an external wall (single skin and plastered) ive not insulated the walls or ceiling and yes its something simple which was causing all the damp and which is the reason a lot of damp exists in old houses. Weve heard of adding central heating, pvc windows, blocking vents, using gypsum plasters which contribute to most of the damp issues in old houses but there is another thing which is causing it which they didnt have in old houses have another guess :)
 
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