do any of you really enjoy plastering
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Gibbo
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dont get me wrong i still think it can be a good living its just on site now all the site agents are idiots and have never been hands on ive got a job lined up in canon street 9 storeys of skimming measured through openings and the next one 45 floors in bishopsgate city of london but you gotta wear saftey glasses while your working
i can't beleive you guys are like this about what you do???? i'd give my right arm to be able to do what you lot can do.... i.e coverage and finish etc..... its such a highly skilled and rewarding job... you don't know how lucky you are....... i only do this messing about because i enjoy D.I.Y but i'm playing at it compared to you lot... thats why i ask idiot questions and get slated from time to time.... but hey who else am i gonna turn to than you lot ;D....... you guys are artists and mastercraftsmen..... when will you realisse your own skills??? ??? not everyone can do what you lot can,,,, you do know this don't you???? you can't just give someone a trowel (13" permashape marshalltown gold ;D) and show them how to go on for the day and leave them to it..... its a skill and i think you either have it or you don't....... and sure i feel sorry for those of you with bad backs and tennis elbow.... but rather a skilled trade for life and leave it with a bad back then a lifetime sat infront of a computer mon to fri 9 till five with no eyes or wrists left plus weight about 20 stone...... any ways thats my rant i think plastering is awsome and deep down i think you do too. ;D ;D ;D
skimmin2day
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Only thing i enjoy about it is getting paid.Used to love it like the other guys.Hard work!!!
southernmonkey
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john darby's a lunatic mate he chucks on 100m2 of render by hand and scrapes it the same day he comes back if he needs to and sets up lights...his works total crap saying that , he owns a company called scotspeed now, i just done a job like that grand it aint for carillion is it , we had to wear full ppe and gloves and glasses all day long if you got caught more then twice you had to sit through another hour long induction at 8.30 the following morning, but they couldn't get it through their thick heads that we do finished work and if your glasses get steamed up and scratched you cant see what your doing
warriorupnorth
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now i'm depressed :'( :'( :'(
essexandy
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Oh dear this just proves I need therapy!!
I've been plastering full time since I was 16 and I'm 44 soon, before that I would go to site with my dad during my school holidays. I've been on plenty of jobs that are s*it, I've spent three hours thawing hoses out just to get some water to do some setting the following day, I've worked through recessions on rubbish money and had to sweat my cobs of just "survive" but I just can't help myself I still enjoy plastering. Every time I walk away from the scaffold and look back at a render I've just done I smile. Every time I take my trowel of a wall at the end of the final trowel I look back at it and feel good inside. And just to prove my illness when I get to the front door at the end of a screed and glance across it I have a real sense of satisfaction.
Anyway this will be my last post for a while as I'm going to get checked into the Priory Clinic and hopfully I'll be cured of this affliction.
I've been plastering full time since I was 16 and I'm 44 soon, before that I would go to site with my dad during my school holidays. I've been on plenty of jobs that are s*it, I've spent three hours thawing hoses out just to get some water to do some setting the following day, I've worked through recessions on rubbish money and had to sweat my cobs of just "survive" but I just can't help myself I still enjoy plastering. Every time I walk away from the scaffold and look back at a render I've just done I smile. Every time I take my trowel of a wall at the end of the final trowel I look back at it and feel good inside. And just to prove my illness when I get to the front door at the end of a screed and glance across it I have a real sense of satisfaction.
Anyway this will be my last post for a while as I'm going to get checked into the Priory Clinic and hopfully I'll be cured of this affliction.
Chris W
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exactomondo ;Dchurch said:
when you learnt to ride a pushbike platinum you spent the next year glued to the bugger right...
then the next 10 years using it as your main mode of transport right?
what do you think of your ability to ride a pushbike these days mate? still a bit amazed by your own talent?
your trying to compare the incomparable........ plus once again in a fashion your talking what you do down??? ??? i learnt to ride a bike when i was 6 ..... could you teach a 6 year old to plaster????.... how many people ride bikes ????? how many people can actually plaster????....... look feel the way you want about what you do.... in my opinion what you guys do (and I'm trying to ) is both highly skilled and very satisfying...... maybe its just like marmite if you catch me drift ;D
warriorupnorth
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The thing is platinum most of us real plasterers (ok Stu that inc you as well) started back in the early- mid seventies start of the the eighties , i started when i was thirteen working weekends with the old man mixing finish with a stick and 50kg of browning etc in a steel bath then we would screed the floors then tile the bathroom/kitchen etc then maybe go outside and render or dash, that was what was expected of you , nowadays you do a two week course in skimmin and hey every ones a plasterer , don't get me wrong i can move with the times and not frightened of new challenges etc etc so just done a weeks course on the computer now i am an expert in I.T (that's information technology Spunky ) so who wants a website £50 no questions asked contact me on [email protected]
I don't sound too bitter do i fellas????
I don't sound too bitter do i fellas????
southernmonkey
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thanks paul i know that must have hurt a little 
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i worked for my uncle during school holidays, he's a general builder, then started with him when i left school in 92 working with his spreads, it was a good experiance and i'm glad i learnt that way rather then going down the college / 2 week course route, i stayed with him til about 96 - 97 then got a job with a specialist render company and decided thats where the money is and been doing it ever since,
so i probably have no where near the experiance of most of you but i know what i'm doing and i think i can definatley call myself a spread 8)
, i worked for my uncle during school holidays, he's a general builder, then started with him when i left school in 92 working with his spreads, it was a good experiance and i'm glad i learnt that way rather then going down the college / 2 week course route, i stayed with him til about 96 - 97 then got a job with a specialist render company and decided thats where the money is and been doing it ever since,
so i probably have no where near the experiance of most of you but i know what i'm doing and i think i can definatley call myself a spread 8)
murplastering
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its shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiite
essexandy
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My Grandad was a decorater and had the same attitude to that as I have to plastering (you should have a wide range of skills), he said if someone can't paper a ceiling then they can't call themselves a decorater, the term he and a lot of the old decoraters used for someone who could only paint was a Tosher and no that isn't a misspelling.
warriorupnorth
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Yep my uncle used to use the same term
tex it all
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i dont mind the skimmin artexin etc ...as long as it dont interfere with me eating the biccies and cakes the customers give me :
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spunkybum
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i wouldnt even call a painter a painter if he can just paint ..............its not that hard is it ???
Roofer2plasterer
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In my humble opinion painting and decorating is one of the easiest trades. If u got a steady hand and a good eye and u understand prep work....u could teach a chimp to do it to a good standard. Now Plastering is a different kettle of fish, some people never pick it up, same with roofing...yeah anyone can nail a slate to a batten but setting out and gauging can be a nightmare.
My mate was on the dole for 5 years and did the odd decorating job for beer money. He had no training or quals and has gone legit and set up a business....he's been to the Bahamas twice this year! Maybee we should all ad decorating to our business cards!
My mate was on the dole for 5 years and did the odd decorating job for beer money. He had no training or quals and has gone legit and set up a business....he's been to the Bahamas twice this year! Maybee we should all ad decorating to our business cards!
Chris W
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i suppose your right in a sense but these days every other builder is just a rough barsteward with no idea of how to do a particular job who does the bare minimum he thinks he can get away with and stuff the consequences...oasis said:DIY wallpaperin .yea well ya gota start somewere! fort i did ok .. gota job next week paperin.. so yea im a painter 2 now
im hanging fire doors at the minute but i dont advertise joinery... the reason im doing em is because i can... to the standards the clerk of works expects and because 2 other people before me have said 'i can do em' and ive had to scrap the jobs theyve done to get em passed...
im not the fastest joiner on the planet which is why i dont advertise for it and theres certain aspects of the job i cant do..
i advertise plastering because i can render, hardwall, skim, screed and cove... theres still aspects of plastering i dont do but to me theyre specialist jobs so i dont take em on..
i got out of being a 'general builder' because i got sick of the hassle involved... too many people saying 'i can hang doors', 'i can plaster', 'i can hang wallpaper' etc... and when you go to the job at the end of the day you have to appologise to the customer, take it all off and come and do it yourself the day after.... or pay top dollar for an established 'joiner', 'plasterer', 'painter and decorator' to come and do it for you...
that and the fact that i got too big for my boots too quickly and ended up losing a LOT of money when it all washed out..
good luck to you oasis... you drive a van that says your a plaster, painter and decorator... i hope your customers dont read this though..
at the end of the day as long as you leave the customer happy then your reputation will remain intact, how you will manage to make much money out of it is up to you though... then again, ive seen your prices...
im just happy for the customer that you didnt take that basement job, and then sub it out to 'the bloke wot new wots wot'..
even when i was into general building i didnt take a job that i didnt have experience of at some level and at least knew how to price..
its been said to me in the past that 'youll never make any money being genuine chris'.... this from the bloke who went 50/50 in the general building with me 2 years ago and then proceeded to stich me up for around 6 grand within a month...
im starting to think the bloke was right...
just my opinion though :-[
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