external render job - please help

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BobbyJack

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external render job - please help


been sent this and asked to do the work. Its already got a coat on it and scratched. Ive only done internal rendering and ewi before and never any traditional sand and cement rendering. Would this be a case of a second coat added on top. The bloke said hes not sure how he wants it finishing. I suggested a basic sponge float to bring the grain out. Anyone got any opinions. Would I need waterproofer into the mix too and should it be a 3:1 mix. I know its frowned upon about pricing but I wouldnt have a clue what to charge for this
 
that last one hurt.

never got taught any rendering. Bloke who I learned spreading with just didnt do it. I asked him what finish he wants but he said he doesnt know. With no preference I think its up to me. So a simple sponge float being easiest sounded best.
 
not done anything yet. bloke rang me up and sent me the pic asking if i could finish it off. someone else has done what you see so far
 
That scratch look rough as a badgers shite shoot.

Why did the 'plast' not finish ?.

I'm thinking 1, the 'plasterer' scratched it, and didn't know how to render.

2, you scratched it, but dont know what mix to use .

3, none of the above lol.
 
RobJack said:
that last one hurt.

never got taught any rendering. Bloke who I learned spreading with just didnt do it. I asked him what finish he wants but he said he doesnt know. With no preference I think its up to me. So a simple sponge float being easiest sounded best.
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lol its up to me, I've never done it before but its up to me
 
as above mate. Got phoned earlier and the bloke sent me that pic. Just spoke to him now and he said its just sand and cenment without any lime or waterproofer. He wasnt happy with guy who has done the scratch. He said he wants a smooth finish putting on top. Without the lime does this have the potential of cracking down somewhere down the line
 
RobJack said:
that last one hurt.

never got taught any rendering. Bloke who I learned spreading with just didnt do it. I asked him what finish he wants but he said he doesnt know. With no preference I think its up to me. So a simple sponge float being easiest sounded best.
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Was he a plasterer who couldn't render...?
 
RobJack said:
as above mate. Got phoned earlier and the bloke sent me that pic. Just spoke to him now and he said its just sand and cenment without any lime or waterproofer. He wasnt happy with guy who has done the scratch. He said he wants a smooth finish putting on top. Without the lime does this have the potential of cracking down somewhere down the line
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i would only put lime in the top coat anyway marra.......................others might differ
 
if he s not happy with a simpel job like scratch coat he s not going to be happy with finish who ever dose it stay away he wont pay
 
Walk away mate . it is just not worth it as you said you have not done any rendering work before ,with respect
 
This must be a wind up! If you don't do render then here's a clue. Don't take on the job! Stick to a little panel or something.
 
Start at the back,five one one mix sand cement lime, add some fibres, small handful of three mm fibres, wet the first coat ,see how it dries, too quick and you are in bother, too quick may mean you may need to sbr it, it needs two spreads and one of them been pretty good, not one who never did it before , it will scream out your name for years if you ruin it.
 
cheers for this. Will give it a miss then. I can internal render just never tried/done/been shown external before. didnt know there was that much difference. Will stick to indoors
 
RobJack said:
cheers for this. Will give it a miss then. I can internal render just never tried/done/been shown external before. didnt know there was that much difference. Will stick to indoors
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Not a massive difference except its a finished product ,a visible product, get a renderer in and help him do it, there are many out there who would be delighted of a bit of work, post it as a job and get plasterers to email or ring you.. Never stop looking for solutions,
 
The scratch looks ok to me the problem you have is you dont know the original mix which will have an effect on the second coat, you dont do external sand and cement and sounds a bit dodgy why the other fella ****** off.
 
A bread and butter job for an experienced man,the builder needs a kick up the ass for trying to get inexperienced plasterers on something as important as a finished product on the front of your house, I don't blame rob or the scratcher , but the builder is out of order.
 
The person who did the scratch didn't know what they were doing as they have done squigly lines in it,:huh: and i bet they used a hawk as well.
 
cheers john. he just rang me back. He gave me the whole run up of whats happened. Regular bloke was unreliable. Would say hed be thare one day and not turn up or cancel day before. He said he was getting fed up with him but needed this doing asap. Long story short the plasterer sent a young lad down to do the rendering. Possibly his apprentice. After this the bloke has told him not to return to this job.
Hes already rang a bloke before me whos words were "i'll do it but dont tell anyone it was me". this bloke has said the same as everyone on here. The scratch is terrible. I was honest with his and said id only done internal render and ewi and told him about the forum and for this job or any in future he could put them on here. Hes going with the other bloke though but hes a commercial property developer and has a few buildings so hopefully there may be some internal stuff in the future.
 
We are all trying to make a living rob just like you,get on a render job with someone and you will soon get the hang of it
 
beader said:
The person who did the scratch didn't know what they were doing as they have done squigly lines in it,:huh: and i bet they used a hawk as well.
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Anyway, what is wrong with 'squigly' lines Beader? Are you trying to say there is more key or something with diagonal lines than squigly? I've been doing squigly lines for years and none of my stuff has dropped off.
 
Captaincaveman said:
Anyway, what is wrong with 'squigly' lines Beader? Are you trying to say there is more key or something with diagonal lines than squigly? I've been doing squigly lines for years and none of my stuff has dropped off.
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I'm curious too, never seen 'scratching-up' done any other way:RpS_confused:
 
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