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Complete said:
I’ve got boat loads of work to do, no chance of me claiming that 80%
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You can claim the 80% even if you have the best 3 months you've ever had. Which is really bizzare. Some self employed people's earning will have gone up dramatically because of this eg YouTubers. But they can then still claim the grant
 
Nath80 said:
You can claim the 80% even if you have the best 3 months you've ever had. Which is really bizzare. Some self employed people's earning will have gone up dramatically because of this eg YouTubers. But they can then still claim the grant
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Can’t claim If you’re still earning surely
 
Complete said:
Really? But I don’t need to so why?
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Probably because it would be far to difficult for them to deduct how much people have earnt in that 3 months away from the grant they're entitled to. Realistically they don't have the time or resources to do that
 
Nath80 said:
Probably because it would be far to difficult for them to deduct how much people have earnt in that 3 months away from the grant they're entitled to. Realistically they don't have the time or resources to do that
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I’m pretty sure if you earn you can’t claim. Atm I don’t need to so I’m not going to, that’s greed
 
Complete said:
I’m pretty sure if you earn you can’t claim. Atm I don’t need to so I’m not going to, that’s greed
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You can claim. But yes it would be greed if still earning the same. Good man
 
Complete said:
I’m pretty sure if you earn you can’t claim. Atm I don’t need to so I’m not going to, that’s greed
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You can claim if working...I don't think the government care they want the economy to keep going as much as possible, they will get the money back one way or another.
 
Complete said:
That’s benefit fraud in my book
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That's a fair point.

I don't yet know if the powers that be are actually allowing people to claim even if they're working. That may or may not turn out to be true.

In the event that it does turn out to be true, I would be asking myself who stands to gain from allowing it (regardless of whether the claims are for a handout or for a loan). Like many other countrues, 'we' (the populace and it's so-called 'elected' officials) do not own the right to produce the money we use - that 'right' (cringe) is currently owned by private individuals, who charge interest on every pound, dollar, etc. they issue. Every time a person borrows money, they are charged interest, but few people pause to consider that the same is true for the communal public purse: everytime the country borrows money to finance shortfalls in funding, in order to cover social care or national emergencies, it is wealthy elite bankers who profit (one reason why warmongering is one of their favourite agendas), and the country that suffers, as it gets ever-deeper into debt.

Viewed in this light, wouldn't these very same bankers, who control the money supply, benefit from a national (and global) emergency that cripples the economy for companies and for individuals?

If the country is forced to borrow money to prop-up schemes to financially support the economically-crippled populace, then wouldn't the elites profit hugely from all that national borrowing? And if they stand to profit hugely from it, wouldn't they be eager to make it as easy as possible for people to claim, no matter how dubious the legitimacy of their claims?


Not saying that's what is actually happening, but it's certainly food for thought.
 
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MakeItSmooth said:
That's a fair point.

I don't yet know if the powers that be are actually allowing people to claim even if they're working. That may or may not turn out to be true.

In the event that it does turn out to be true, I would be asking myself who stands to gain from allowing it (regardless of whether the claims are for a handout or for a loan). Like many other countrues, 'we' (the populace and it's so-called 'elected' officials) do not own the right to produce the money we use - that 'right' (cringe) is currently owned by private individuals, who charge interest on every pound, dollar, etc. they issue. Every time a person borrows money, they are charged interest, but few people pause to consider that the same is true for the communal public purse: everytime the country borrows money to finance shortfalls in funding, in order to cover social care or national emergencies, it is wealthy elite bankers who profit (one reason why warmongering is one of their favourite agendas), and the country that suffers, as it gets ever-deeper into debt.

Viewed in this light, wouldn't these very same bankers, who control the money supply, benefit from a national (and global) emergency that cripples the economy for companies and for individuals?

If the country is forced to borrow money to prop-up schemes to financially support the economically-crippled populace, then wouldn't the elites profit hugely from all that national borrowing? And if they stand to profit hugely from it, wouldn't they be eager to make it as easy as possible for people to claim, no matter how dubious the legitimacy of their claims?


Not saying that's what is actually happening, but it's certainly food for thought.
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Thats a rabbit hole I’m not interested in going down any time soon sir.
Thanks, but no thanks.
for the record I agree though.
 
There’s no such thing as free money, it will be clawed back somewhere down the line, it will be fraud further down the line though.
In the hmrc we have one of the most advanced tax systems in the world, once we’re through this they will factor in certain people will abuse it, and you’d think hmrc will back to claim it from them individuals in future.
 
Complete said:
You mean the money they give you goes down as earnings on this tax year? So the money they give you surely isn’t taxed at source then?
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Yes you'll be paying tax on the 80% if you claim. So in effect they're paying us around 64% of our usual monthly take home. And even then after all the expenses come off your books every year like van repairs, insurance etc. Someone who earns 3k a month labour on average, will probably end up with around 1k a month and a tax hike
 
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